Originally Posted by frozne
If you liked the older version of Gnome, then I would say yes. MATE is just Gnome2 that was taken in a different direction. So it has newer development without the issues that Gnome3 has. I haven't tried Cinnamon, but I may install it into a VM tonight to check it out.
I never particularly "liked" it, but it was stable, functional and worked like I expected a desktop to work. Anyway, if you do that, that'd be awesome
but no pressure if you're busy.
Originally Posted by jrl1357
Get some good theming in and xfce can be amazing. Other then that, cinnamon or the gnome 2 based MATE. Atleast for me gnome3/unity arnt that bad once you get over the learning curve
As for openbox- you could always just write a good script to do those things
The problem isn't so much the themes, they're plain but tolerable. It's just... well, really, it's the panel that looks like crap to me. All the icons are just hideous, blurry smudges. This might seem like a nitpick, but xfce really needs to get on with symbolic icons.
I'm just not that big on extensively customising Linux... yea, it's cool to have that ability, but weird as it might sound, the reason that I originally started using Linux was because everything was more or less ready from the get-go. Just install the distro, then some extra stuff that didn't come with the CD/DVD, and off you go. Now, it seems that I have to tweak everything to have a system that I like... sure, it's one of the great freedoms of Linux, but I don't care for that great freedom as much as I care for sane defaults. In the end, I use my computer (and the OS) to do stuff, not customising it. That's one of the reasons why openbox turned me off (it wasn't just sleeping/hibernating) - fantastic thing, had to spend too much time getting it to work the way I wanted, no longer interested.
Originally Posted by nathris
Install Xfce, minimal KDE. Start an Xfce session
99.9% of the bugs and issues in KDE are due to the bloated mess that is plasma. The window manager itself is relatively lightweight and stable.
I thank this is a solution I could actually live with... though the tiling with four corners is one of the top KDE annoyances on my list, I hardly ever use it but it's too easy to end up with a window taking up only a quarter of the screen
But OP...what horrible bugs and what versions of KDE do you speak of? I haven't noticed any since the 4.5/4.6 days.
4.8 primarily, haven't got to 4.9 yet. Anyway, I could write an entire essay on the bugs and annoyances of KDE, but I'll just pick a few off the top of my head:
-Having to type 3 letters for KRunner/"the K menu" to give search results. Annoying. Gnome 3, Unity, even Windows as of now do it right. If I type in 'f' in Gnome3, Unity or Win7, I get Firefox (and in the two former, file manager which might be the other thing I'm looking for). It works the way it should. KDE doesn't.
-The dialogs that open up when clicking stuff in the notification area (such as calendar) appear off the screen, hiding half the stuff on it. And of course they can't be moved.
-Dolphin sidebar icons as of 4.8 automatically resize, which ARRRRGGGHHHHH BOMFUNK SMASH BOMFUNK SMASH BOMFUNK SMASH DOLPHIN! GAH! Good thing is, apparently it's fixed in 4.9, but my home internet is crap so I'l have to wait till next week to update my netbook at university (not using KDE on my desktop).
-Already mentioned tiling in response to nathris.
-Krunner search results don't show options like "suspend" unless it's completely and fully spelled out - "sus" or "shu" display nada.
-The task bar still glitches up time to time, sometimes leaving huge gaps in between applications.
-Multimonitors... too much to explain. But here's one absolutely brilliant one: when disconnecting an external monitor from my netbook, KDE instead of reconfiguring the thing asked me if I'd like to. Which seems like a stupid question - yea, I just disconnected a monitor, of course I would like to shrink the desktop to normal size, what do you think I want to do with extra virtual screen space that I can't actually see, Good KDE? Of course, even better, it displayed the dialog asking this on the same monitor that I JUST BLOODY DISCONNECTED. That's mighty helpful.
-...and many, many more.
And if you're not happy with what is given to you...you make your own thing. At least in Linux you have that freedom. The choice is simple; get used to something someone else makes (which is a lot of life) or suffer the inconvenience of making your own.
Nah. Freedom of choice isn't much good if all the choices are crap. If time was an unlimited resourse, then sure, but I've got things to do.
Hrmm ... I thought a base LT Debian with XFCE was rather usable. confused.gif
Maybe give it a try? (Assuming you haven't? tongue.gif)
It was usable, but that's it. Windows, too, is usable. That by itself isn't very impressive (unless you compare it to Gnome 3, then yes, xfce and Windows are mighty impressive from user interface point of view). But though mostly functional, firstly the tiling is crap (could just use KWin or even Compiz I suppose), and at least on both F16/F17 there's a peculiar bug that causes the visuals of KDE applications to constantly glitch up. I'm 99% sure that this is because they're using some gtk theme since they all work fine in native Qt look, but that really doesn't help. Xfce's fault or not, if it doesn't work in xfce, I can't use it.
But yes, I'm a big xfce fan. Would use again (if I could).Edited by bomfunk - 9/26/12 at 4:41pm