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If you haven't yet bought a cooler, go with the SG05 for portability. Throw an H60 or maybe an H80 (there was a thread around her about the H80 in an SG05). I think the H80 works if you only use one fan. Case comes with a PSU that will be fine for your needs.

Even so, how would the cooling be, if I were to overclock? And since I'll be getting a gtx 670, won't it be painfully hot in there?
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I had a TJ08E, and LOVED it. Plenty of room for a full water cooling setup if you ever wanted to do that as well, and plenty small. The reverse ATX is pretty cool as well if you are into that.
I currently have a Core 3000, and its ok. Very basic. I do miss my FT03, that was an awesome case as well.

Why did you switch?
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Even so, how would the cooling be, if I were to overclock? And since I'll be getting a gtx 670, won't it be painfully hot in there?

SG05 isn't that hard to work in. You're removing three panels so getting your hands in there to move stuff around is easy. Only semi-issue is cabling but that can be mitigated easily with proper planning.

The GTX 670 will be drawing air directly from the outside of the case. Provided you get a blower type, there should be little heat interaction between your GPU and the rest of the case.
    
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SG05 isn't that hard to work in. You're removing three panels so getting your hands in there to move stuff around is easy. Only semi-issue is cabling but that can be mitigated easily with proper planning.
The GTX 670 will be drawing air directly from the outside of the case. Provided you get a blower type, there should be little heat interaction between your GPU and the rest of the case.

Hmm, true. Though is 450 watt powerful enough to power an overclocked 3570 and a gtx670?tongue.gif
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Hmm, true. Though is 450 watt powerful enough to power an overclocked 3570 and a gtx670?tongue.gif

seems to be. most ppl that have tried similar setups are @ 300W full system draw before OCing. So you've got 150W to play with.
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Hmm, true. Though is 450 watt powerful enough to power an overclocked 3570 and a gtx670?tongue.gif

Easily. Check reviews at [H]ardOCP because they use an i7-2600K overclocked to 4.8GHz for their GPU testing. They managed to draw maximum 381W when overclocking a GTX680 to 1228MHz. http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/04/nvidia_kepler_geforce_gtx_680_overclocking_review/6 That's total system power measured at the wall while the ST45SF bronze and gold can both deliver over 432W internally on the 12V rail.
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Easily. Check reviews at [H]ardOCP because they use an i7-2600K overclocked to 4.8GHz for their GPU testing. They managed to draw maximum 381W when overclocking a GTX680 to 1228MHz. http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/04/nvidia_kepler_geforce_gtx_680_overclocking_review/6 That's total system power measured at the wall while the ST45SF bronze and gold can both deliver over 432W internally on the 12V rail.

That's impressive!
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Why did you switch?

I went smaller :-) Sg05, i7, 680, and 3 128gb SSDs. Ultimate LAN rig

Then I sold everything and rebuilding as we speak
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I went smaller :-) Sg05, i7, 680, and 3 128gb SSDs. Ultimate LAN rig
Then I sold everything and rebuilding as we speak

Haha, awesome! What's your build gonna be like this time?
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A 350 watt Power Supply may sound sufficient for your PC in theory. Unfortunately the peak efficiency of most Power Supplies is somewhere between 50% of their rated value. Also, because a switching Power Supply is not 100% efficient, an 80+ Gold will lose at least 10% of its rated wattage in inefficiency and an 80+ Bronze up to 17-18%. Consequently a 350 watt bronze PS will only have about 285-290 watts available during normal usage and its maximum efficiency will peak about 145 watts. Such a recipe could likely lead to premature component failure. Also assuming that your Power Supply has sufficient amperage for your video card available on a 12 volt rail.
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