[TPU] Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid CPU Cooler Detailed - Page 2

Do you not consider the color blue to be blue? It's still water cooling. Water is running over a block and the water is being cooled by going through a radiator. That's water cooling.

Edit: someone beat me to it.

Late to the party and they made it even look worse! And the tubes.. But who knows, maybe it'll perform better than the competitors.
Eisberg is what I'm waiting for.

He means, I assume, that there is a significant difference between the sealed liquid cooling systems and custom water cooling, and I absolutely agree. I have heard many people tell me "oh, I am into water cooling!" and then they proceed to act or even say that there is no difference between an Hxx and a fully-Custom2-rad 3-block 2-pump loop. There is a huge difference.
First of all, the SLCS are not even water cooling from a "technical" viewpoint, as none AFAIK actually use water, but instead are filled with some type of glycol-based coolant. Thus, not water.

The Corsair Hxxx, Antec 9xx, etc, are more "high end air cooling systems" than they are water cooling, both in form and in function. I have nothingaagainst the units themselves, and in fact if I were looking to cool a CPU in a folding rig or ultra-small HTPC, I would absolutely consider the Thermaltake Water2.0 Extreme. I think that they offer some great benefits such as removing the weight of the cooler from the MB, allowing for the heat to be dissipated directly outside of the case, quiet operation for something like a HTPC thanks to PWM, and they make it much easier to work on the computer without having a giant 3x 140mm fan air cooler taking up 2/3 of the surface area of the MB.
However, they are much more "high end air coolers", and I stand by that. There is simply no competition between something like the H100 and even the mostbasic of liquid ccooling loops (Raystorm EX240 + D5 kit with decent fans).

This is no different. The Eisberg units look interesting in that they will be much closer to actual water cooling units, but the current crop are simply overpriced and under performing units built cheaply and designed to get money from people who want the appearance of liquid cooling, or to be able to say they are water coolers, but are outperformed by $30 less expensive air coolers that have probably 1/1000th the RMA rate that the Corsairunits do. I am not trying toinsult aanyone, and I already stated that I can understand situations where they are useful, but the majority of people (in the real worldppopulatio , not the OCN population) who buy these are primarily doing it because of the "cool" factor. I have probably seen two dozen people at Micro Center spend $70+ on an H60 or whatever, even when the salesperson is telling them that they will get better or equal cooling from a 212+ Evo, Frio OCK, or what not for1/2-1/4th the pprice but thepperson says "I want water cooling and this is the best out there" or something like that. It's frustrating.

/end rant

I want noctua to take the asetek design and put there magic to work on it, And color it the lovely brown and beige color too.

Im really tired of all these same units coming out and while the eisberg is more what im looking at, Its not something i would use in a HTPC still.

how thick is this rad?

I might have to get 240mm of this if the price/value is right if the Eisberg is too thick for my case

Welp, so I got the chance to upgrade my h60 to a H100 for the H60 + $30... I took it. No eisberg for me =/

Here is my review of the Seidon 120M

I have one of these with corsair sp fans in push pull, I threw the fan right out that came with it, it sucks, as far as the system itself it actually performs well for a 120 rad. I actually get low 28 to high 55 on extreme intel burn test on 4.2 ghz. normal use is roughly 35 to 40 while gaming, and about 28 to 30 idle depending on room temps.