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With iGPU's getting so good, wonder when we'll have switchable graphics on desktop to save some power and lower noise...

Lucid Virtu does this with IB and SB, and I think it's going to be expanded to Trinity as well. Problem is, Lucid Virtu is still buggy, and unless you get a GPU that actually completely shuts itself down (only AMD's 7xxx cards do this currently), it's almost pointless.
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Some of their advertising isn't really all that accurate. Neither companies are exactly saints when it comes to this kind of stuff.
From their website: "HD addicts can game on without a discrete video card. Intel® HD Graphics delivers sophisticated experiences with life-like visuals to the casual and mainstream gamer."
I've heard of worse being displayed in ads around tech-illiterate stores like Best Buy.

I agree there. thumb.gif








And who can forget this guy? tongue.gif

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Years of negative reviews because of poor performing products? Seems warranted. AMD asking reviewers to only show the GPU side of things is just them admitting that the CPU side of their APU isn't impressive. They're just trying to fool people and that should never be accepted as "right"

Llano's CPU performance was not bad at all.Trinity will be better and will destroy Llano at multi-fredded apps. What i wound like to see thow is AMD broaden their CF ability to atleast 7850/7870's.That would post a major problem towards Nvidia. thumb.gif
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Llano's CPU performance was not bad at all.Trinity will be better and will destroy Llano at multi-fredded apps. What i wound like to see thow is AMD broaden their CF ability to atleast 7850/7870's.That would post a major problem towards Nvidia. thumb.gif

I would love for you to use a spell checker before posting. thumb.gif
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Years of negative reviews because of poor performing products? Seems warranted. AMD asking reviewers to only show the GPU side of things is just them admitting that the CPU side of their APU isn't impressive. They're just trying to fool people and that should never be accepted as "right"

Llano's CPU performance was not bad at all.Trinity will be better and will destroy Llano at multi-fredded apps. What i wound like to see thow is AMD broaden their CF ability to atleast 7850/7870's.That would post a major problem towards Nvidia. thumb.gif

Trinity will be lucky to match Llano in multithreaded. The Bulldozer architecture doesn't scale well at all because of the shared nature. Trinity scales as if it had 3 cores.
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Eh, I wouldn't say it's quite that bad.
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Trinity will be lucky to match Llano in multithreaded. The Bulldozer architecture doesn't scale well at all because of the shared nature. Trinity scales as if it had 3 cores.

From previous reviews that I've read, Trinity in integer multithreaded is a significant improvement over Llano, while floating point is either equivocal or slightly worse.
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Trinity will be lucky to match Llano in multithreaded. The Bulldozer architecture doesn't scale well at all because of the shared nature. Trinity scales as if it had 3 cores.

Steamroller ( Kaveri ) is where it's at. wink.gif



Besides, Trinity will clock higher than Llano.
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Trinity will be lucky to match Llano in multithreaded. The Bulldozer architecture doesn't scale well at all because of the shared nature. Trinity scales as if it had 3 cores.

From previous reviews that I've read, Trinity in integer multithreaded is a significant improvement over Llano, while floating point is either equivocal or slightly worse.

I forgot about Trinity's very high clock speeds for a moment. Yes you are correct. However if you look at scaling, the difference between single-thread and multi-thread, the difference is like 20% greater with Llano. Single thread performance is similar to slightly worse clock for clock with Trinity, FP multithread is worse, integer multithread is equal to slightly worse. Obviously clock speeds will negate those negatives.
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Trinity will be lucky to match Llano in multithreaded. The Bulldozer architecture doesn't scale well at all because of the shared nature. Trinity scales as if it had 3 cores.

Steamroller ( Kaveri ) is where it's at. wink.gif


yep. Then you've got Excavator, with the reworked memory controller, new platform, and full HSA implementation...
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I agree there. thumb.gif

These are the only two slides with false or misleading advertising. Thanks for not showing the really bad ones.
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