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I received my Taipan day before yesterday and I must say Razer HAS OUT DONE ITSELF.

I have played for more than 10 hours and i can say this mouse has been highly misunderstood and misinterpreted on this forum. I’ll do extensive testing and based on the results will post here as soon as i can.
A little backgrounder about myself, I have been a professional cs1.6 gamer for the last 11 years in my country, and have performed on multiple platforms from my team. I have used many gaming mice in the past e.g. MX518, Logitech G300, CM SPAWN, CM STORM, Razer deathadder, Abyssus, Logitech G9, intelli 1.1a, intelli 3.0, Steelseries Kinzu, Xai, Sensei etc. My aim has always been performance and quality, and would strive to my best of abilities to achieve the level of gaming I’m at, at the moment.

This review is all about my experience of the mouse and in turn also a response to the reviews Taipan has received earlier on this forum.
MY REVIEW:

SOLID BUILD QUALITY:
Body:
• The body and texture of the mouse are exceptional and unlike anything i have ever seen before. The coating on top is a high quality anti sweat material. I always had a problem with my sensei slipping out of my hand but Taipan, damn, it’s like glued to my fingers: D I love the control I have over the grip.
The sides are of a different material but a good as well none the less.
• The mouse feet are not that flat at all, they actually glide exceptionally well on my Steelseries QCK full size pad.
The wire is braided and is placed appropriately and doesn’t affect/hinder my game play.
• The downside to the shape are the side curves, i find them uncomfortable at times and need to find a sweet spot for my self where my thumbs snugly grip the mouse firmly.

SENSOR:
Tracking:
Unbeatable tracking, this mouse doesn’t skip, doesn’t miss, doesn’t lag and please I found no acceleration, (+VE or –VE) I did extensive swapping on my pad with full speed and very slow swaps and the mouse lands on the same spot every time. I did this about a 1000 times.
For those of you who have used some sort of so called “AUTHENTIC” mouse acceleration testing methods to test for +Ve & -Ve acceleration, I don’t know what you all are trying to prove here with all those graph charts and plot diagrams; all what matters is how your hand movement feels in-game at the end of the day.

Mouse Lag and smoothing EXPLAINED:
I have noticed the mouse feels a bit different but has no lag what so ever. When I switch from my intelli 1.1a to Taipan, yes it feels as if the cross hair is gliding(NOT LAGGING) at first, but then when I get into the game, it feels completely normal.
I want you all to think of this scenario like when using a high end gaming mouse e.g. like a intelli1.1 or G9 it feels like you are driving a race car without automatic fuel injections system, anti-breaking systems, automatic suspension management system, the race car predominantly will run fast but won’t have that strong spark/ that edge of control, that’s how I feel when I use Intelli1.1a or any other high end gaming mouse, that being said I mean the mouse movements are very raw or untamed. Now than imagine installing all of these automatic functions in a race car, they will now give the driver more command, more control and more stability and a filtering agent over all those human errors. This is exactly what Taipan is all about, the sensor is freaky when it comes to performance by that I mean it can track very very high speeds of movement, but to give the gamer more control and command over so much power there is some sort of a smoothing agent incorporated on the mouse chip that gives that different feel, that edge, that authority over your shots.

At first one might think damn this is stupid; my shots won’t be accurate at all, that’s just how I felt in the beginning, I was like damn I have made that stupid mistake again, of going into the market and purchasing something stupid, another marketing gimmick.Theoretically speaking that just might be the case, but if you get down to playing with this mouse, you are like ok, BOOM one shot, two, three, four Wohooo???
When I switch from other mice to Taipan it feels different or one might say the cursor feels as if it were on a leech ‘GRANTED I AGREE’ but it isn’t noticeable at all once I get into gaming. By the word “different” I mean I have CONTROL/STABILITY/POWER over the cursor movement, i have that higher end, that edge to draw out smoother curves, smoother trail shots etc.

I have done extensive in game testing, played with pistols, M4/Ak, sniper. I play FPS exclusively, so my views might differ in many ways from others but yes all of these different modes of FPS gaming I played with this mouse I felt at the top of my game, I felt high in command of my shots and what a feeling that is, one I must say you just have to try to experience it thumb.gifFlickers and fast swap shots with the sniper were incomparable to any other mouse I have used, truly exceptional. AK recoil control was so easy with this mouse, as the grip and sensor reflex tracking is so incredible that it makes the most complex of shots look very easy & effortless.

To further showcase what i mean i will be posting screenshots of the mouse cursor tracking, smoothing etc.

Z-Axis Issue:
Finally razer has managed to solve this issue on its high end gaming mice, I found no z-axis issues on my mouse.

CONCLUSION:
Ok so finally having the mouse tested for more than 2 weeks I have to say I'm impressed with the overall performance of this mouse.
Yes there is a smoothing agent or lag on the mouse, and for this i have come up with a significant solution (until the firmware is updated), e.g. on my intelli1.1a i used 2.8 sensitivity in-game (cs1.6) but with my Razer Taipan i use 2.85 (400dpi on the mouse) which gives me the same feeling as my intelli (very close believe me tongue.gif).
As for acceleration I didn't find any acceleration positive nor negative, or it just might be that there is acceleration but at such low amounts that i can't see or feel it smile.gif No matter what tests i did i just wasn't able to produce acceleration on this mouse.
The mouse built quality is very high and optimal/premium.

The only downsides are the sensor lag, and the side lips of the mouse, which are a bit oddly arched and i dont like them protruding out like that biggrin.gif

Lastly the synapse 2.0 sucks, and fails to store your personalized settings on your Razer Taipan built in memory, i noticed that when i exit synapse the last dpi settings i was using becomes the default and only dpi setting i can use on the mouse (SAD). Hope these razer support people fixed this issue soon.

Overall Great mouse, but crappy software and firmware issues.

ENJOY!
Edited by brainzasif - 10/5/12 at 1:46am
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TESTING & SCREENSHOTS:

Smoothing or not you guys decide, below I've posted screenshots of 400, 800 and 1800 dpi with windows sensitivity on default. I've shown how well or how badly the mouse can make circular and straight line movements:




Acceleration testing demo is attached in the link below, file name is "acceleration.dem"
http://www.mediafire.com/?5paqrf42cq3njsj

Extensive acceleration testing, done on 400 dpi, 500 hz poilling rate, windows sensitivity on default, used all noforcecommands in cs1.6, resolution 640*480


Testing done on my QCK fnatic series full size mat. I wanted to post it in demo format cause i think you guys can get a better idea on the movement while in game rather than a video, plus there are questions of authenticity when it comes to posting videos, as they can be edited creatively nowadays.

I leave it for you guys to decide whether there is acceleration or not.
P.S. I was trying to adjust the pad in the middle, so i was kinda jumpy at times recording the demo.


CSDM Practise demo coming soon smile.gif
Edited by brainzasif - 9/29/12 at 7:38am
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Hi folks!

Here is my little review about the Taipan... it also is my first post on this forum but hope to be taken seriously. I'm reading up and down this forum for about 1 and a half years now and was able to acquire a lot of knowledge in the field of gaming mice! Thank you for that!

About myself:
I've played and play CS:S semi-competetively since 2008 till now with some breaks in between. I play low-mid sense (about 1000 dpi) without acceleration and prefer cloth mousepads.

Mice I own(ed) and have used so far:

Coolermaster CM Storm Spawn
Logitech G400
Logitech G700
Microsoft WMO
Microsoft Intelli 1.1a
MIcrosoft Intelli 3.0
Razer Abyssus
Razer Deathadder Black Edition
Razer Lachesis 5600 dpi
Razer Mamba 3.5G
Razer Taipan
SS Kinzu
SS Kana
SS Xai
SS Sensei
Zowie Mico
Zowie EC 2 black
Zowie AM-GS


Now to the Taipan:

I confirm that this mouse has some weird feeling during gameplay. It's, like already mentioned a few times in several threads, some kind of laggy feeling. First I thought the Avago ADNS 9800 causes this kind of laggyness. From its architecture the ADNS 9800 should mainly be the same as the Avago ADNS 9500, used in the XAI, the Sensei and the G700 I also own. So I checked the other mice using a mainly identical sensor if they also deliver the same kind of "sluggishness" during gameplay like the Taipan does... and guess what? They dont! So in my opinion this thing has to be software related. Maybe some kind of cursorsmoothing... but why? The first point why this mouse gets unusable for me is because it doesn't deliver 1:1 movement. I don't need some kind of software smoothing my movements... I do this on my own.

The next thing which really annoys me using the Taipan is the really high amount of positive acceleration which kicks in way too fast for me. At the Xai or the Sensei in my opinion acceleration appears at higher speedlevels - from a low-mid sensers view. I need approximately 44 cm to do 340° If I do a faster flick with the Taipan the cursor is landing at ~ 360-370° ****ty thing if you are used to 1:1 movement and as mentioned above this acceleration kicks in at way lower speedlevels than it does with the Xai>Sensei. (I got used to the Xais acceleration within a timeframe of about 2 weeks but couldn't get used to the Taipans within 3 weeks of usage) Unusable for me and very annoying if you already gained a certain level of muscle memory... flickshots don't work for me with the Taipan and its positive acceleratoin is way higher than on Sensei or Xai... at least with my model.

Clicks and buildquality of this mouse are very good but the lips on the left and the right side annoy me like they do on Logitechs G400. That's something you might get used to but unfortunately I don't and won't. I'm used to Intelli-kind-of-shapes.

The cable is braided and seems very durable but is also a little bit on the stiffer side.

Synapse 2.0 is not worth mentioning... Onboard memory would have been better.

So wich mice do I prefer and do I play FPS with:

Microsoft Intelli 1.1a >= Zowie AM > Deathadder > CM Storm Spawn fw v.61 > Abyssus > Sensei > Xai (but better coating than Sensei) > ... a lot of others ... > Taipan > Kinzu v1 (worst mouse i've ever used)


For me at the current state the Taipan is a mouse not usable for FPS because of its tracking issues... maybe Razer gets this fixed with some software updates... but I don't believe so.

In my opinion if you play FPS prefer an optical mouse like the Zowie AM, a deathadder or an Intelli 1.1a (only for low sense) if you can get one. If you deeply want a laser mouse... take the Sensei or a Xai.


p.s. Acceleration of the Taipan is present on cloth and hard pads. On hard pads, the Sensei's acceleration is barely there.

greetz! gl&hf
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I can confirm the very slight delay in movement when using a ADNS-9800 based mouse, I have had a sample of GigaByte Krypton in that time
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Originally Posted by brainzasif View Post

Unbeatable tracking, this mouse doesn’t skip, doesn’t miss, doesn’t lag and please I found no acceleration
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Originally Posted by erv0704 View Post

The next thing which really annoys me using the Taipan is the really high amount of positive acceleration which kicks in way too fast for me.
Acceleration of the Taipan is present on cloth and hard pads.

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Originally Posted by brainzasif View Post

I have noticed the mouse feels a bit different but has no lag what so ever. When I switch from my intelli 1.1a to Taipan, yes it feels as if the cross hair is gliding(NOT LAGGING) at first, but then when I get into the game, it feels completely normal.
I want you all to think of this scenario like when using a high end gaming mouse e.g. like a intelli1.1 or G9 it feels like you are driving a race car without automatic fuel injections system, anti-breaking systems, automatic suspension management system, the race car predominantly will run fast but won’t have that strong spark/ that edge of control, that’s how I feel when I use Intelli1.1a or any other high end gaming mouse, that being said I mean the mouse movements are very raw or untamed. Now than imagine installing all of these automatic functions in a race car, they will now give the driver more command, more control and more stability and a filtering agent over all those human errors. This is exactly what Taipan is all about, the sensor is freaky when it comes to performance by that I mean it can track very very high speeds of movement, but to give the gamer more control and command over so much power there is some sort of a smoothing agent incorporated on the mouse chip that gives that different feel, that edge, that authority over your shots.
At first one might think damn this is stupid; my shots won’t be accurate at all, that’s just how I felt in the beginning, I was like damn I have made that stupid mistake again, of going into the market and purchasing something stupid, another marketing gimmick.Theoretically speaking that just might be the case, but if you get down to playing with this mouse, you are like ok, BOOM one shot, two, three, four Wohooo???
When I switch from other mice to Taipan it feels different or one might say the cursor feels as if it were on a leech ‘GRANTED I AGREE’ but it isn’t noticeable at all once I get into gaming. By the word “different” I mean I have CONTROL/STABILITY/POWER over the cursor movement, i have that higher end, that edge to draw out smoother curves, smoother trail shots etc.
I have done extensive in game testing, played with pistols, M4/Ak, sniper. I play FPS exclusively, so my views might differ in many ways from others but yes all of these different modes of FPS gaming I played with this mouse I felt at the top of my game, I felt high in command of my shots and what a feeling that is, one I must say you just have to try to experience it thumb.gifFlickers and fast swap shots with the sniper were incomparable to any other mouse I have used, truly exceptional. AK recoil control was so easy with this mouse, as the grip and sensor reflex tracking is so incredible that it makes the most complex of shots look very easy & effortless.

Not sure if trolling or actually a Razer Rep...
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I wish my 3.0 had a "Smoothing Agent".
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For those of you who have used some sort of so called “AUTHENTIC” mouse acceleration testing methods to test for +Ve & -Ve acceleration, I don’t know what you all are trying to prove here with all those graph charts and plot diagrams; all what matters is how your hand movement feels in-game at the end of the day.
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Not sure if trolling or actually a Razer Rep...
You cant know, maybe razer reps has a Taipan with PrU GaM1nG Sensor 3090 AvaGOnlY
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Seems legit.. -_________- *starts crying and screaming to the heavens for a good high dpi mouse*
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