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Valve better force Linux down developer's throats

This.

I'm fine with Metro UI, but I want Windows 8 and Minecraft and it seems that this just won't be happening. frown.gif
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This.
I'm fine with Metro UI, but I want Windows 8 and Minecraft and it seems that this just won't be happening. frown.gif

Well that's the thing.

You can install Minecraft on a Windows 8 machine right now.

All MS wanted to do was cooperate with Notch to make it as compatible with Windows 8 as possible.
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Someone on Reddit brought up some great points...
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These certifications are nothing but good. As long as Windows 8 doesn't block non-certified programs you still have a open platform.

Certification means your program follows a specific set of rules in regards how it behaves, such as;
1.1 Your app must not take a dependency on Windows compatibility modes, AppHelp message, and or any other compatibility fixes
4.1 Your app must handle critical shutdowns appropriately
5.1 Your app must properly implement a clean, reversible installation
Windows 8 Software Certification gives you programs that behave in a specific and predictable way according to a unified set of rules.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/10k6hu/notch_got_an_email_from_microsoft_wanting_to_help/c6e6qb2

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I think Notch is overreacting and is just going along with this whole silly crusade against Windows 8. Also, isn't Minecraft available for the Xbox 360? Oh the irony.

lol...He's just trying to seek attention
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Originally Posted by Z Overlord View Post

Valve better force Linux down developer's throats

This.

I'm fine with Metro UI, but I want Windows 8 and Minecraft and it seems that this just won't be happening. frown.gif


As mentioned above,there hasn't been any compatibility issues as far as I know with windows 8 and minecraft. You can run minecraft just as easily as you can on windows 7 from what I've read.Remember,minecraft runs on java.
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

Anyone that brought up Windows 8's UI changes missed the point entirely, that has nothing to do with this in any way. If Microsoft walls off applications in the future it will mean a loss of profits for developers, and a loss of variety for consumers. There are good reasons developers don't want to support the locking down of the world's most popular desktop OS.

Good, does this mean you developers and publishers will get off of your asses and start coding for linux? The only reason Im not on linux is none of you high and mighty programmers and developers code a damned thing for it so we're all STUCK using windows until you guys actually make your software for it.

Game development is a business, the platform choices are business decisions and the time, effort, and testing to get the game on Linux is often deemed to not be worth it. Also, this has nothing to do with developers, and everything to do with publishers.

Many developers won't even bring the game to Windows from console, what are the chances of them bringing it to Linux?

Ideally though, I agree. I also wouldn't be on Windows if it weren't for gaming.
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This.
I'm fine with Metro UI, but I want Windows 8 and Minecraft and it seems that this just won't be happening. frown.gif

All the certification is is that it guarantees 100% compatibility, easy installation, and clean uninstalls with Windows 8. You can install as many non-certified programs as you want as long as the code is made to run in a Windows environment.
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Windows 8 is really turning into a catastrophe, for developers and users alike. In fact, everything that has to do with the Windows "metro" brand is turning Windows into complete crap. People are pissed about that, but Microsoft keeps pushing it onto them.

Microsoft is also nervous that they're losing "app store revenue" that Apple has so neatly captured. So instead of sticking to Windows' roots of "install anything", they're pulling an Apple and trying to force their new store onto everyone. Not only will this centralize distribution of Windows programs in an inefficient manner, it will also give Microsoft a platform from which they can continue their monopolistic practices. Instead of having an open platform, of sorts, Microsoft is pushing for a platform where they can choke off anyone they don't like at will.

This is crap, and a lot of people are angry about it. So to try and propagandize their new store, Microsoft has put together this retarded "certification policy" that really doesn't do anything. Then they try to get developers to "certify" themselves, and lend legitimacy to their lame app store and their lame designs for Windows 8/Microsoft.

Notch didn't appreciate being used as a pawn in Microsoft's latest round of idiotic policy making, so he politely told em to shove it and with a simple tweet announced his opposition to the direction Microsoft is taking with Windows. Good.

The new article spin makes him a little pretentious, but that's really not it. Notch handled the matter well and didn't make a fuss out of it, and I hope more developers follow suit. Then maybe Microsoft will understand that they're not Apple, they can't get away with shoving this garbage down people's throats, and that they really should keep Windows as it is: A popular operating system that we can build apps and games on top of with ease, and not have it turn it into some funky Web 3.0 piece unusable of bubbly BUTTHOLE with an autocratic software management policy.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the interface, not even in the slightest bit. This has to do with the fact hat Microsoft is laying the foundation for a closed platform like Apple's, which would be devastating to the industry.
To be clear, Microsoft hasn't created that closed platform, and as it currently sits Windows 8 will function like the OS' prior to it. That doesn't change the fact Microsoft has laid the foundation and could close it off should they decide....hopefully they won't.

Don't count on any company to not put profit before it's consumers.

"Hopefully they won't" isn't it. For me, it's a question of "when".
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It seems like Notch doesn't agree with the direction Microsoft is heading, not so much Windows 8 itself.
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Yes, keep Windows the exact way it is. Bring out a new version that is exactly the same as the old one. Sounds really inovative there thinking.gif
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Windows 8 is really turning into a catastrophe, for developers and users alike. In fact, everything that has to do with the Windows "metro" brand is turning Windows into complete crap. People are pissed about that, but Microsoft keeps pushing it onto them.

Microsoft is also nervous that they're losing "app store revenue" that Apple has so neatly captured. So instead of sticking to Windows' roots of "install anything", they're pulling an Apple and trying to force their new store onto everyone. Not only will this centralize distribution of Windows programs in an inefficient manner, it will also give Microsoft a platform from which they can continue their monopolistic practices. Instead of having an open platform, of sorts, Microsoft is pushing for a platform where they can choke off anyone they don't like at will.

This is crap, and a lot of people are angry about it. So to try and propagandize their new store, Microsoft has put together this retarded "certification policy" that really doesn't do anything. Then they try to get developers to "certify" themselves, and lend legitimacy to their lame app store and their lame designs for Windows 8/Microsoft.

Notch didn't appreciate being used as a pawn in Microsoft's latest round of idiotic policy making, so he politely told em to shove it and with a simple tweet announced his opposition to the direction Microsoft is taking with Windows. Good.

The new article spin makes him a little pretentious, but that's really not it. Notch handled the matter well and didn't make a fuss out of it, and I hope more developers follow suit. Then maybe Microsoft will understand that they're not Apple, they can't get away with shoving this garbage down people's throats, and that they really should keep Windows as it is: A popular operating system that we can build apps and games on top of with ease, and not have it turn it into some funky Web 3.0 piece unusable of bubbly BUTTHOLE with an autocratic software management policy.

Please see my statement above.Game is also available on itunes/mac/xbox360 which is a closed system yet he doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
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