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I was hoping for more RAM. Ah well..
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Amd has driver problems, stories of people on here prove it but others say otherwise. Some say Nvidia has driver problems, there are some people who say otherwise. But when Amd cards have driver problems they are serious problems. With Nvidia cards the problems are the driver will crash in some games. On my whole 2 Nvidia cards i have never had any problems. There are some people who say and some benchmarks that prove that Nvidia cards are smoother. Ok, so Amd cards get more fps, anything past your monitors refresh rate will make no difference. So does having a card that is more smoother but gets greater than 60 fps worse than a card that is choppier and gets way more than 60 fps? Now i don't know about Amd cards but it seems to me that Nvidia cards have better eye candy settings available.
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Can we lock this thread already? There's no point in reigniting another pointless flamefest over a dead article.

This generation, Nvidia has had just as many driver problems as AMD, if not more, and using the whole "anything over 60 fps doesn't matter anyway" argument is quite outdated. Anyone that plays games such as CS:S will tell you that at 240 fps a game is far more responsive than at 60 fps, so framerates over 60 can be quite good. Try playing CS:S with adaptive v-sync and then again with out. The responsiveness should be apparent immediately.

For reference, I've had about 7 nvidia cards and 3 AMD cards. So far, 5 out of those 7 nvidia cards were met with massive headaches due to drivers, while the AMD cards were virtually trouble free. The ONLY two nvidia cards that I ever had where the drivers were virtually perfect were the 6800 GT and the 9800 GTX+ (Windows 7) drivers. Even this current generation of drivers are crap. The 306.97 produce a smoother experience at the cost of framerates while the 310.97 produce higher framerates at the cost of smoothness. It's a lose-lose situation with my 660 Ti. If you think Nvidia's drivers have always been rainbows and unicorns, you haven't been using them very long. Nvidia has released drivers with some VERY nasty bugs that would go so far as to kill a graphics card, so the driver argument is irrelevant.

On the flip side of that, the drivers for AMD's GCN architecture have been plagued by low performance at points along with black screen bugs and other anomalies, so they're not doing so hot either.

As far as "eye candy" goes, both cards produce a reference image, and forcing Ambient Occlusion in the Nvidia control panel creates a massive performance dip on most games where that feature can be enabled from the driver, so that's hardly something to celebrate about. Other than that, both AMD and Nvidia's "eye candy" is exactly the same. rolleyes.gif


And that's all there is to it. Please close this thread. thumb.gif
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What i said clearly was anything higher than the refresh rate of your monitor. Using 60 as a baseline.
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What i said clearly was anything higher than the refresh rate of your monitor. Using 60 as a baseline.

Who cares what you can see? The higher the framerate, the more responsive your system is. How is that hard to understand?
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Its not about what you see, thats not what I said. You're telling me that with a 240 Hz monitor getting more than 240 fps you can tell, see the difference between? The point is some people pick nvidia because its smoother, even if amd gets more fps.
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Its not about what you see, thats not what I said. You're telling me that with a 240 Hz monitor getting more than 240 fps you can tell, see the difference between? The point is some people pick nvidia because its smoother, even if amd gets more fps.

I keep hearing that nvidia is smoother, but after comparing the 7870 vs. 660 Ti, I beg to differ. In real world testing, I cannot tell any difference other than the 660 Ti getting slightly higher performance in the games I play. I don't think there's any merit to the claims.
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LMAO! This was even before the 12.11 drivers xD

Now the performance of the 7950 is on average 10% higher with those drivers than it was with the ones the were available during the time this AMD vs Nvidia flame war started.....now theres even less of a reason to get a 660ti. Also guys i feel the 660ti is kind of a waste, i dont understand even if your a Nvidia whore why people dont just buy a Nvidia GTX 670. Idk it just feels like they are too close in price for me to want less performance for a couple dollars cheaper.

Amd reference: Just like i dont get why people would buy the Tahiti LE Radeon 7870 or as most would refer to them, the "7890"......if feel that its wayyy to close in price for a person to choose the lesser card than the better one, the "radeon 7950". Anyhow even if you were looking for better value the 7950 would still win since it comes with a 3 game bundle and the 7870 only comes with 1 game. I see some radeon 7950s right now going for sub $300, now if you bought one for $300 and sell the game vouchers for 70-80 bucks the price youve actually paid after that would be $220-230. For the 7870 Tahiti LE the prices are about 280-290 average minus max $30-40 bucks for the free game that you sell its $240-250.......still being inferior value wise, not even performance wise which is also worse.
    
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actually hellace Tahiti LE is going for 260....
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actually hellace Tahiti LE is going for 260....

Lol scratch that.......i just researched and i didnt know Power color had released one for that price.

Sorry i didnt clarify....it was that much for me since i live in America, and mosts brands that sell them (Club 3d, VTX3D ext.) sell them in Europe, i was doing the Euro conversion, since i thought those were the only ones that released them so far. My mistake biggrin.gif
    
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