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Hey,

So I just moved into a new place with new roommates. They have Cox Cable and internet package for the house. Cox requires you to spend a grip of money on one of their boxes to access it every month.

I know almost nothing about TV tuners or how they work. If I got a good HD TV turner for my rig and plugged it into the cable line going into my room (which would be for the cable box) will that give me the full access I want to Cox cable? If not, what is a TV tuner really for?

Thanks in advanced guys!
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post #2 of 11
From what i know You need a cable card if you to get all the cox digital cable programming. TV Tuner cards are for getting regular OTA stations.

http://ww2.cox.com/residential/centralflorida/support/tv/article.cox?articleId=b8889a60-d706-11df-66a2-000000000000

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815706001
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[URL=http://Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 Dual Tuner Digital CableCARD Receiver]THIS[/URL] would probably be the tuner you would want. If you want to record 2 shows at a time or watch 1 and record one you would need 2 cards from cox.
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Pretty sure every cable provider now encrypts cable channels. You could still receive ClearQAM with a basic tuner but for cable stations you'll need a CableCard tuner like the Ceton InfiniTV 4. I own the InfiniTV 4 and rent a CableCard from Verzion for my FIOS service for $3.99/mo. I use Windows Media Center on Windows 7 for watching / recording TV. I use a regular Verizon DVR for my primary TV room though.
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post #5 of 11
Look at the computer attached cablecard tuners from ceton, and the hdhomeruns from silicondust. Your provider is required to give you 1 cablecard free of charge if you ask for it.

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Quote:
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Your provider is required to give you 1 cablecard free of charge if you ask for it.

If that is true then any law enforcing that would vary state by state or even by town. In Pennsylvania there is definitely no requirement like that.
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Sorry for the double post. Tapatalk isn't letting me edit the first one.

With one of the devices I mentioned you only need one cablecard, but can view/record 2 or more channels simultaneously.

You won't be able to use ondemand or features like that though.

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Quote:
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Your provider is required to give you 1 cablecard free of charge if you ask for it.

If that is true then any law enforcing that would vary state by state or even by town. In Pennsylvania there is definitely no requirement like that.
I smudged my words together. Sorry. What I meant was they're required to provide one if you ask for it, and a lot of times its free if you replace the SUB with it.
Also, if there's a bundle that includes multiple tuning devices and adding the card to your existing gives you that many devices they have to give you whatever discount there may be even if cablecard aren't explicitly included in the bundle.

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Yeah, I think the FCC law said they only have to support/provide the cable card, it depends on the company. Some have said Comcast will charge $2/month for the first card, others haven't had any charge for their first card. It just depends on area I guess.
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If I want to run a HDMI cable IN to my computer is there anything that that works. I have looked at Hauppage collosus , HD pvr and Blackmagic intensity. Does anyone have working knowledge of using any of these with a directv box.
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