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I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. 3.57 isn't really all that hard of an overclock, you can probably hit that at stock volts.

It's a good thing you updated your bios though.

Also, depending on the drive it probably failed for reasons other than heavy use.. they last for about a decade under normal use. Especially Vertex's have horrific failure rates.. I feel very bad for you and that Vertex 3 frown.gif
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Below is one of the MANY positive reviews I read about the OCZ Vertex 3:

"Overall, the Vertex 3 240GB drive is a beast. While we've seen better performance in OCZ's own RevoDrives, those are PCI-E based and set up in a RAID configuration. Even then, the Vertex 3 bested the original RevoDrive in a number of tests."

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1552/8/


Like I said, it's being plugged into a 3 year old machine that has been working very hard almost never off for 3 long years.

As of this post it hasn't crashed once in hours. Big difference when I went back to BIOS defaults. Seems like I'm not even gonna need to overclock my 3.2. Who knows. So far, I can watch HDTV on my 42", cruise the net on my 26" HD monitor and download big files at the same time with no problem.

If you search the net you will find more than one person who approves of the OCZ Vertex 3.
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Below is one of the MANY positive reviews I read about the OCZ Vertex 3:
"Overall, the Vertex 3 240GB drive is a beast. While we've seen better performance in OCZ's own RevoDrives, those are PCI-E based and set up in a RAID configuration. Even then, the Vertex 3 bested the original RevoDrive in a number of tests."
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1552/8/
Like I said, it's being plugged into a 3 year old machine that has been working very hard almost never off for 3 long years.
As of this post it hasn't crashed once in hours. Big difference when I went back to BIOS defaults. Seems like I'm not even gonna need to overclock my 3.2. Who knows. So far, I can watch HDTV on my 42", cruise the net on my 26" HD monitor and download big files at the same time with no problem.
If you search the net you will find more than one person who approves of the OCZ Vertex 3.

I don't trust that site :\

Although the Vertex 3 is good, its firmware has been way too buggy for people to buy it. However, OCZ released a firmware update to fix that problem, so if you don't have it already, download it and flash it ASAP
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Sorry, but the Vertex 3, and most consumer level drives from OCZ, are meh at best. Samsung, Plextor and Intel destroy OCZ in terms of quality and reliability.
    
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Originally Posted by JBRONCFAN View Post

Below is one of the MANY positive reviews I read about the OCZ Vertex 3:
"Overall, the Vertex 3 240GB drive is a beast. While we've seen better performance in OCZ's own RevoDrives, those are PCI-E based and set up in a RAID configuration. Even then, the Vertex 3 bested the original RevoDrive in a number of tests."
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1552/8/
Like I said, it's being plugged into a 3 year old machine that has been working very hard almost never off for 3 long years.
As of this post it hasn't crashed once in hours. Big difference when I went back to BIOS defaults. Seems like I'm not even gonna need to overclock my 3.2. Who knows. So far, I can watch HDTV on my 42", cruise the net on my 26" HD monitor and download big files at the same time with no problem.
If you search the net you will find more than one person who approves of the OCZ Vertex 3.

My Vertex 2 ran fine for about 14 months until it decided to crash and burn for absolutely no reason. Corrupted sectors, red and green simultaneous lights on the drive (indicative of failure). Bios couldn't find the drive at all at some points.

The replacement drive I got from RMA? Failed after a month.

The second replacement I sold on ebay? Failed after two months for the guy and I had to help him battle RMA.

OCZ and their Vertex's have well documented hardware failure problems, and I refuse to deal with them again, quite a trashy company. Moved over to my Samsung 830 about two months ago and I'm loving it thumb.gif
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Multiplyer, because when you change your fsb you overclock your mother board, which overclocks your RAM, pcie lanes, cpu socket, and SATA or SAS ports which can lead to data corruption.
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Multiplyer, because when you change your fsb you overclock your mother board, which overclocks your RAM, pcie lanes, cpu socket, and SATA or SAS ports which can lead to data corruption.

PCI/PCIe (following the chain, SATA/SAS SB Controllers) only get overclocked if you mess with the PCIe base clock, which on most boards- is completely unlinked from the system reference clock.
    
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post #18 of 18
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Well it's been over a week and I've put what I've learned here and other forums to good use.

You can't just upgrade the firmware for the Vertex 3. It can't be the main C drive, must be in AHCI mode. I downloaded a bunch of different OCZ Toolbox's for the firmware upgrade and they all seemed to work. Some had progress bars, some showed sectors being written too but in the end, Toolbox showed version 2.15 when I wanted it to be 2.22.

Well, I think one of the Toolboxes worked cause my Vertex 3 is running super tight now. There was a registry edit required on each version of Win 7 I have installed on my pc for AHCI mode to work. All of the times previously trying to upgrade firmware I never had this done.

3 years is usually the time when I drop a couple grand on all brand new equipment and build a new rig but I find myself at a time where resources are limited. So I gotta make due with what I got and simply buying a SATA III SSD isn't automatically going to make my system run faster. My system itself is a bottleneck (a nice bottleneck tuned to SATA II). I got a SATA III PCI Controller Card coming in the mail so I can try to enjoy SOME of the benefits of the SSD SATA III.

Instead of building a whole new rig, I am forced to rejuvenate my current rig. All new SATA III cables, 2 new SATA III PCI Controller Cards, new 60GB SATA III SSD, take the old rig apart and clean every square inch of it, replace the fans that are surely not running even close to capacity. I got 4TB of drive space nearly full so I will have to purchase and install a new 2TB drive. Doing all of this should buy me an extra year of useage.

Little weary of overclocking a 3 year old chip (which is a Black Edition btw). I'm also interested in overclocking the CPU/Bridge and all the other settings. Weird thing happened when I upgraded BIOS from 2101 to 4101 (lot of updates), there was new settings I could tweak. I could enable "Unleash Mode" which says it will unleash the full power of the chip. The new BIOS also said I could adjust the cores on the chip in 2% increments.

All told if the extremely smart members here could help me with an overclock plan, taking in all the particulars into consideration, that would help tremendously. It's not just a 3.2 AMD Phenom IV Black Edition but a heavily worked 3 year old 3.2 AMD Phenom IV Black Edition. Would love to learn more about overclocking the Northbridge and such. Old motherboard, old chip, new proper overclock settings. Thanks so much. I will try to list as much as I can below. Take care.

Win 7 64-bit
ASUS M4A79 Deluxe w/recent BIOS update version 4101
8GB Corsair RAM
Radeon 4890 HD w/1GB RAM 1 DVI, 1 HDMI ouputs
C drive is OCZ Vertex 3 60GB SATA III, 3 WD internal HD's, 1 Hitachi 1TB external drive
Win 7 installed on SSD AND WD 500GB hard drive (this drive has the boot loader so BIOS boots to this drive)+
Edited by JBRONCFAN - 10/5/12 at 5:16am
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