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Greetings, tomorrow I am going to microcenter and picking out the parts for my girlfriend's computer. In my mind, i'm thinking of a i7 2700k, gigabyte z68 mobo, 16gigs ram, and an AMD 7950.

Before I go out and blow $220 on a 2700k, I want to make sure I'm not leaving any rock unturned, and that rock being AMD CPUs.

Her primary purpose is NOT gaming. Instead, it is Autodesk 3ds, Maya, and music editing. I think that is what AMD cpus are good at.


If AMD typically gets beat out by Intel, what are the purposes of even getting an AMD CPU? I know it's cheaper, and probably not much different in real world experiences. But then why would Intel always be the one that's soo well known for brute force? Are my impressions wrong? Prove me wrong

Can anybody here give me some food for thought?!

PS: this is not a troll thread, I am strictly looking for arguments that can make a challenge for both ways
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depends how much you love your girlfriend. biggrin.gif
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Greetings, tomorrow I am going to microcenter and picking out the parts for my girlfriend's computer. In my mind, i'm thinking of a i7 2700k, gigabyte z68 mobo, 16gigs ram, and an AMD 7950.
Before I go out and blow $220 on a 2700k, I want to make sure I'm not leaving any rock unturned, and that rock being AMD CPUs.
Her primary purpose is NOT gaming. Instead, it is Autodesk 3ds, Maya, and music editing. I think that is what AMD cpus are good at.
If AMD typically gets beat out by Intel, what are the purposes of even getting an AMD CPU? I know it's cheaper, and probably not much different in real world experiences. But then why would Intel always be the one that's soo well known for brute force? Are my impressions wrong? Prove me wrong
Can anybody here give me some food for thought?!
PS: this is not a troll thread, I am strictly looking for arguments that can make a challenge for both ways

I use an AMD cpu for all these things as well as many other autodesk programs, I've used a 2500k and an 1100t and the more cores logic works, also, autodesk software supports the fx architecture.

Trust me, much better.
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depends how much you love your girlfriend. biggrin.gif

lol I have a 1,050 gift card to microcenter.....I MIGHT pick up a 128 gig ssd for myself, but everything else is all to her
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I use an AMD cpu for all these things as well as many other autodesk programs, I've used a 2500k and an 1100t and the more cores logic works, also, autodesk software supports the fx architecture.
Trust me, much better.

not that I don't trust you, but the first like 3 feedback reviews on newegg for that 1100t cpu had "not as fast as intel" in as their Cons......

How are those fx8150s or whatever the number schemes were? I'm not a sucker for marketing gimmicks..but 8 cores does sound awesome lol
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Greetings, tomorrow I am going to microcenter and picking out the parts for my girlfriend's computer. In my mind, i'm thinking of a i7 2700k, gigabyte z68 mobo, 16gigs ram, and an AMD 7950.
Before I go out and blow $220 on a 2700k, I want to make sure I'm not leaving any rock unturned, and that rock being AMD CPUs.
Her primary purpose is NOT gaming. Instead, it is Autodesk 3ds, Maya, and music editing. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I think that is what AMD cpus are good at.
If AMD typically gets beat out by Intel, what are the purposes of even getting an AMD CPU? I know it's cheaper, and probably not much different in real world experiences. But then why would Intel always be the one that's soo well known for brute force? Are my impressions wrong? Prove me wrong
Can anybody here give me some food for thought?!
PS: this is not a troll thread, I am strictly looking for arguments that can make a challenge for both ways

i7 is the way to go, even in heavily multi-threaded applications, Bulldozer pulls only slightly ahead of an i5

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288

An i7 will be significantly better for you multi-threaded applications.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=551
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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

not that I don't trust you, but the first like 3 feedback reviews on newegg for that 1100t cpu had "not as fast as intel" in as their Cons......
How are those fx8150s or whatever the number schemes were? I'm not a sucker for marketing gimmicks..but 8 cores does sound awesome lol

That's because many misguided individuals see "6 cores" and think fast, its actually like V6 vs V8, more cores means more power under the hood.

Fx chips are # of cores, #architecture ( 1 is bulldozer, 3 is piledriver ), # performance (5 is greater than 2 for example), and then a 0.

Anyone else, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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i7 is the way to go, even in heavily multi-threaded applications, Bulldozer pulls only slightly ahead of an i5
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
An i7 will be significantly better for you multi-threaded applications.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=551

okay this is just to be devil's advocate, to help other people come here and give me a better answer...but, if this is basically always the case, where i7's outperform AMD's offerings and and i5 is right up there with AMD's best, then why do people go for AMD. What is the lure that I am not seeing?
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That's because many misguided individuals see "6 cores" and think fast, its actually like V6 vs V8, more cores means more power under the hood.
Fx chips are # of cores, #architecture ( 1 is bulldozer, 3 is piledriver ), # performance (5 is greater than 2 for example), and then a 0.
Anyone else, please correct me if I'm wrong.
???? What? Oh you mean naming, I was so confused.


If price difference doesn't matter, the 2700k is great.

If you want to stretch your dollar, you won't notice a difference using an FX-8120.

I use both an i7 2600 and an FX-8120 everyday for autocad and mastercam, I can't tell a difference between the two at all. Due to bulldozers idle power gating, the power consumption is about the same, but a Bulldozer would consume more power if it is rarely idle.
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okay this is just to be devil's advocate, to help other people come here and give me a better answer...but, if this is basically always the case, where i7's outperform AMD's offerings and and i5 is right up there with AMD's best, then why do people go for AMD. What is the lure that I am not seeing?
Already owning a board that supports AM3+, low budget offerings. IE FX-4170, X4 641, all of the APUs, C3 and E0 Phenom II.

Also overclocking. Intel limiting overclocking to only more expensive K series i5's and i7's is deterring people away from their low end.
Edited by S.M. - 9/27/12 at 6:38pm
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