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okay this is just to be devil's advocate, to help other people come here and give me a better answer...but, if this is basically always the case, where i7's outperform AMD's offerings and and i5 is right up there with AMD's best, then why do people go for AMD. What is the lure that I am not seeing?

People that believe Maya means everything in workstation applications are sorely mistaken.
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post #12 of 66
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???? What?
If price difference doesn't matter, the 2700k is great.
If you want to stretch your dollar, you won't notice a difference using an FX-8120.
I use both an i7 2600 and an FX-8120 everyday for autocad and mastercam, I can't tell a difference between the two at all. Due to bulldozers idle power gating, the power consumption is about the same, but a Bulldozer would consume more power if it is rarely idle.

I wasn't recommending BD, if BD is all he has as an option, then go 2600k. Phenom II chips or wait for PD.

Mastercam and Autocad are both very simple programs compared to 3ds max, inventor, FL studio/ableton, and many others.
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I wasn't recommending BD, if BD is all he has as an option, then go 2600k. Phenom II chips or wait for PD.
Mastercam and Autocad are both very simple programs compared to 3ds max, inventor, FL studio/ableton, and many others.
My only response to you was the "what" part. The second half was to the OP.

Yes I know.
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$220 is a total steal for a 2700K, and in fact I was recently contemplating buying one myself. Go for it, especially since Z68 boards aren't very expensive.

Other than an extra 100MHz I believe the advantage it holds over the 2600K is better silicone, right?
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post #15 of 66
Sounds like the right price for a good CPU, tbh.

But isn't a GTX 660 Ti better than a AMD 7950 for about the same price?
    
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Sounds like the right price for a good CPU, tbh.
But isn't a GTX 660 Ti better than a AMD 7950 for about the same price?
Not for GPU compute performance. (CUDA doesn't count tongue.gif)
 
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Sounds like the right price for a good CPU, tbh.
But isn't a GTX 660 Ti better than a AMD 7950 for about the same price?

As much as I like the 660ti and think it's a great for its price GPU, the 7950 beats the CRAP out of it in compute. For these purposes, a Fermi might be a good option. A 560ti 448 cores or something like that would be excellent.
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$220 is a total steal for a 2700K, and in fact I was recently contemplating buying one myself. Go for it, especially since Z68 boards aren't very expensive.
Other than an extra 100MHz I believe the advantage it holds over the 2600K is better silicone, right?

2700k's generally get a LITTLE BIT higher of an OC. Not much more than a 2600k though.
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i7 is the way to go, even in heavily multi-threaded applications, Bulldozer pulls only slightly ahead of an i5
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
An i7 will be significantly better for you multi-threaded applications.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=551

This is the most important bit of input. Intel is DEFINITELY the way to go for medium-high-extreme gaming or any kind of workstation work. AMD is good at mobile gaming and low end gaming/day to day stuff.
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not that I don't trust you, but the first like 3 feedback reviews on newegg for that 1100t cpu had "not as fast as intel" in as their Cons......
How are those fx8150s or whatever the number schemes were? I'm not a sucker for marketing gimmicks..but 8 cores does sound awesome lol

The FX-8150 trades blows with the Intel i5-2500k even though the 2500k has half the cores.
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I'm currently in Kansas City on a trip and went to my first Microcenter...HEAVEN!


Anyways - Microcenter is offering $50 off when you combine a motherboard and CPU generally. Meaning if you get them both i'm willing to bet you'll get $50 Off. I am for example picking up a X79 motherboard and 3820 (LGA 2011) FOR $420 after tax and flying back with it. Online that would run me $520. I AM SO ENVIOUS because there's no Microcenter in Washington....\


The convincing point for AMD would be their price points. Buy what YOU want.
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A 8120 wil trade blows with a 2500, with the 2500 coming out front most of the time.

However, AMD has a solid upgrade path. Currently, Bulldozer isn't a BAD chip, and it'll fit her application well (especially if she's running more than one program at a time). Mine is fantastic. I play crysis 2 on extreme settings on 2 cores, while my other 6 rendering 1080 35mbps video thumb.gif

The good thing is though, with an AM3+ board, you can upgrade to piledriver when it comes out in 2-3 weeks. And ontop of that, you will be able to upgrade to steamroller in 2014 when it comes out. That means you can spend $150 (sell the old chip for $50, buy new chip for $200) a year to have the latest CPU.

AMD is shooting for 45% faster than bulldozer, for steamroller. In two years time, $200 for a 45% faster computer will be a real nice bonus.

Haswell will use a new socket, so if you buy into Intel now, you are stuck with it. AMD offers a solid update path, and since the early piledriver benchmarks show 15% improvement, and AMD is talking about another 30% ontop of that for steamroller, you can follow that path.

You can find 8120's for $150 all day long. Easy $70 savings and with a $30 cooler, easily clock it to 4-4.5ghz. Use it for a while, if you want to upgrade just drop in a 8320 when they come out next time. That said, maybe it's best to wait and see, perhaps you should just get piledriver(if it does as well as it's slated too).

At the end of the day though, if you need to be "convinced" to do something, than odds are you didn't want to in the first place.

both are good chips
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Okay though, so what would AMD offer that would compete against the potential 2700k.
What's the best bundle value here?

If i'm going to spend 200+ on a CPU, I don't want it to just be comparable to an i5. I got myself an i5 2550k in January for 160 bucks from microcenter, not planning on paying more for less.

So what is the best CPU AMD has for 3dsMax? How does that compare to an Intel offering? Do either of these CPU companies handle large amounts of ram better than the other?
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