These two are designed for 140mm Fans And he wants something for 120mm Fans, wich furthermore leads me to the conclusion that he already has some specific Fans in mind he wants to use. Personally i have never used the stock Fan of any cooler i bought, so its just a complete waste to me.
I wouldnt use the TRUE Copper either, but mostly because it's heavy as f**k.
Just saying, that Not everybody is looking for the cheapest cooler possible, for a lot of people the build quality and the aesthetics of a product are important aspects too. And the TRUE C is still an awesome piece of Hardware.
You should Know this since you are using a Phanteks.
I'd get the Venomous X. With 2x GT AP15 it's as good as any cooler outthere.Edited by Elohim - 9/28/12 at 3:38am