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Google Maps are the most superior on the market and Google Navigation is quite excellent on foot or by car.

Well, yeah it would be. Google have been developing Maps for almost 10 years.
    
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Well, yeah it would be. Google have been developing Maps for almost 10 years.

I'm sorry, what's your point?

Does this excuse Apple's crap maps job? Does it excuse their choice to force it on users and remove the old maps application? Does it mean I should try to use Apple Maps because Google has been doing it longer and "vote the underdog" and all that crap?

NO, it just means that Google Maps is superior and a whiney Apple bias fansite just sounds whiney
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I'm sorry, what's your point?
Does this excuse Apple's crap maps job? Does it excuse their choice to force it on users and remove the old maps application? Does it mean I should try to use Apple Maps because Google has been doing it longer and "vote the underdog" and all that crap?
NO, it just means that Google Maps is superior and a whiney Apple bias fansite just sounds whiney

My point is Google Maps would be the best free map application/thing out of all of them because they have been in constant development for the longest as well as frequent updates and added features every once in a while. And no, it doesn't excuse Apples awful maps app, but you can't expect it to be perfect, especially as it has been in development for less than a year and it's technically still in beta IIRC. Even Google maps isn't perfect after around 10 years.

No, you shouldn't try Apple Maps if you don't want to. If you do want to then go ahead, I'm not going to stop you. I do agree they shouldn't have forced it onto people with iOS 6, they should have still had Google Maps in iOS 6 but also have Apple Maps available if anyone wants to try it. At least until Apple Maps gets as good as Google Maps is now.
    
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Then what was the point of your post and why did you quote me?.

I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to expand on what you were saying. You will have to forgive me this transgression, as I just assumed, since you were allowed to expand on what 2010rig was saying. Then I would be extended the same courtesy.

All I am saying is that 2010rig wasn't looking in one the predetermined, designated 3D areas on Apple maps. Clearly he should have been looking in one of these areas. Which covers just over .5% (+/- .5%) of the population of this planet, and as a result. This is the amount of people who may find a use for 3D maps. Obviously these are not exact figures. The + .5% I extrapolated from visitors to these cities, but this figure could easily be larger. The - .5% is derived from the fact that 3D maps are not really that useful to anyone.

So as the picture was taken outside one of these designated areas. He was looking at Apple Maps wrong.
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^ The 3D maps look really good, they just don't work very well just yet. I also don't think I'd use them productively and would be a "look this is cool" for a while kind of thing. If I really needed to get a good feel for the area or where I'm going.. StreetView all the way.
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BTW, if Apple are going thermonuclear on Android... I hope they don't use iOS Maps.
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Sometimes people just want to know how to get on a certain block, like say the 5500 block of Broadway (idk if that's actually an address). So they type in 5500, or maybe 55xx (xx being a couple random numbers), what really is important is that the app approximates where the address would be - at least be on the right block, doesn't have to be within 50 or 100 feet.. but it ought to be close for wrong addresses. So... if the Apple iMap is nowhere near the (bad) address, it's still a bad app.
Yet unlike your example "315 E 15th Street" is pretty specific.

Apple Maps is basically assuming that you're looking for an actual address, not a park, and defaults to giving you directions to that location. As the article says, if you put in "318 E 15th Street ny" it'll find the apartment just across from Motorola's fake address, and if you put in "315 E 15th Street ny manhattan" it will take you to the park.
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steelbom,

What I don't think you realize is that marketing crap comes from almost every powerful company out there that relies on marketing to the uninformed public. What really matters is what product is in fact superior. When it comes to maps Google is better than Apple for now. End of story. I think Apple makes a great display. I would get an iphone if they added an iMicroSD slot. Until then the tiered storage wallet rape is too much for me. Such a closed system is oppressive and not a good thing for the knowledgeable consumer IMO.
I'm very well aware of that.

Right now Google Maps is better overall, but it's not fair to falsely mislead consumers into believing that Apple Maps can't locate a simple location in Manhattan. It's capable of doing that in this instance, but this ad portrays otherwise.

Apple has done the same with Siri, performance, apps, etc. So stop crying foul about your beloved company.
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Sometimes people just want to know how to get on a certain block, like say the 5500 block of Broadway (idk if that's actually an address). So they type in 5500, or maybe 55xx (xx being a couple random numbers), what really is important is that the app approximates where the address would be - at least be on the right block, doesn't have to be within 50 or 100 feet.. but it ought to be close for wrong addresses. So... if the Apple iMap is nowhere near the (bad) address, it's still a bad app.
Yet unlike your example "315 E 15th Street" is pretty specific.

Apple Maps is basically assuming that you're looking for an actual address, not a park, and defaults to giving you directions to that location. As the article says, if you put in "318 E 15th Street ny" it'll find the apartment just across from Motorola's fake address, and if you put in "315 E 15th Street ny manhattan" it will take you to the park.
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steelbom,

What I don't think you realize is that marketing crap comes from almost every powerful company out there that relies on marketing to the uninformed public. What really matters is what product is in fact superior. When it comes to maps Google is better than Apple for now. End of story. I think Apple makes a great display. I would get an iphone if they added an iMicroSD slot. Until then the tiered storage wallet rape is too much for me. Such a closed system is oppressive and not a good thing for the knowledgeable consumer IMO.
I'm very well aware of that.

Right now Google Maps is better overall, but it's not fair to falsely mislead consumers into believing that Apple Maps can't locate a simple location in Manhattan. It's capable of doing that in this instance, but this ad portrays otherwise.
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Google Maps are the most superior on the market and Google Navigation is quite excellent on foot or by car.

Well, yeah it would be. Google have been developing Maps for almost 10 years.

I wonder if we can say this about video games, too. Well, company X did well because they only produced 1 game! No wonder they made such a great game! Company Y started out good, but after their 10th interation, they fell flat on their face.

Frankly, the point being made is that, given google's experience, Apple was unable to make a good product out of the box when they had the resources present to them to make a good map application. It's not like Google owns the rights to maps, they pull their sources from other people, too. Apple just got greedy and fell flat on their face.
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I wonder if we can say this about video games, too. Well, company X did well because they only produced 1 game! No wonder they made such a great game! Company Y started out good, but after their 10th interation, they fell flat on their face.
Frankly, the point being made is that, given google's experience, Apple was unable to make a good product out of the box when they had the resources present to them to make a good map application. It's not like Google owns the rights to maps, they pull their sources from other people, too. Apple just got greedy and fell flat on their face.

Well that depends if company X is constantly updating and adding new features to the game. If not, then no. Also the company Y one is a terrible analogy because this is the first time Apple have made a map application by themselves. Not only that but Google has a lot of different things, much like Apple.
    
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