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If i remember well ,one year and something back , you were one of us ,why are you now hating your bros ?! smile.gif

I'm still an AMD fan, I plan on buying a 5800K, doesn't mean I get turned ON by it, that's just weird.

Being an AMD fan doesn't mean you have to blindly support anything and everything AMD does. That's fanboism.
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considering that Llano hit 5GHz under LN2 color me impressed.
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Blah, LN2 is irrelevant for most people. It'd be nice if it were possible to get 4.5+ GHz on air though. That'd be awesome performance for a 130~150$ish APU.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-3.html
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Despite the early status of our FM2-equipped motherboards, we managed to crank our A10-5800K up to 4.5 GHz using core voltage settings as high as 1.5 V. Windows would start to boot at 4.6 and 4.7 GHz, but never made it to the desktop before locking up. AMD says that, using a different platform, it's able to hit 4.8 GHz on air cooling. As we get closer to channel availability, we have to guess that platform vendors will better-optimize the overclocking headroom of K-series SKUs, particularly since there will be three of them at launch.
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considering that Llano hit 5GHz under LN2 color me impressed.

This is a Bulldozer based architecture...
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considering that Llano hit 5GHz under LN2 color me impressed.

This is a Bulldozer based architecture...

6.5 vs 5.0 is a huge difference. If the difference between Phenom II and Zambezi was anywhere near as big, Zambezi would be hitting 9.5GHz on LHe and 5.4GHz on air.

Plus Trinity's IPC is about equal to if not slightly worse than Deneb's. Thuban adds a few percent as does Llano though.
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OK people, it's not a 1nm sandy bridge, you're not getting 5.0 on air.

Want to bet on that?


I figure 5.5 for quick screens,5.0-5.2 for benchmarks on air,if there are motherboards that will have the power delivery.Have no idea how the APU will effect it though.If stock turbo hits 4.2 you can bet when you add better cooling and more voltage you will get a good increase.
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6.5 vs 5.0 is a huge difference. If the difference between Phenom II and Zambezi was anywhere near as big, Zambezi would be hitting 9.5GHz on LHe and 5.4GHz on air.

You're joking right? Because Ph2 can hit ~7ghz on LN2. FX hits ~8.5+ ghz.

That's ironically, a 1.5ghz difference.

Also remember Llano was the first desktop APU, so they have clearly worked out some kinks, and RCM helps, but once again.... Bulldozer uarch.
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You're joking right? Because Ph2 can hit ~7ghz on LN2. FX hits ~8.5+ ghz.
That's ironically, a 1.5ghz difference.
Also remember Llano was the first desktop APU, so they have clearly worked out some kinks, and RCM helps, but once again.... Bulldozer uarch.


it's both 1.5ghz, but the percentage differences is much larger.
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it's both 1.5ghz, but the percentage differences is much larger.



My point still stands in that i don't see how anyone can be surprised that this chip clocks significantly higher than Llano. It's a matured 32nm process, RCM, and Bulldozer uarch... Designed for high clock speeds.
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6.5 vs 5.0 is a huge difference. If the difference between Phenom II and Zambezi was anywhere near as big, Zambezi would be hitting 9.5GHz on LHe and 5.4GHz on air.

You're joking right? Because Ph2 can hit ~7ghz on LN2. FX hits ~8.5+ ghz.

That's ironically, a 1.5ghz difference.

Also remember Llano was the first desktop APU, so they have clearly worked out some kinks, and RCM helps, but once again.... Bulldozer uarch.

It's a 1.5GHz difference, yes, but relatively it's a much smaller difference.

The difference between, say, a 33MHz and 50MHz 486... that was huge. 17MHz means nothing anymore.

6.5/5.0 = 1.3. 8.7/7.3 ~ 1.19.
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it's both 1.5ghz, but the percentage differences is much larger.



My point still stands in that i don't see how anyone can be surprised that this chip clocks significantly higher than Llano. It's a matured 32nm process, RCM, and Bulldozer uarch... Designed for high clock speeds.

I'm not surprised it clocks significantly higher than Llano. 30% is quite a bit though. Bigger than the difference on air.
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