Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › cooler block skim?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

cooler block skim?

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
im currently using a H60 and im thinking about some modifications.

namely a much much larger rad (8x bigger). which is pretty obviously gonna help it a great deal

however i have another idea for improvement. skimming (professionally) the cooler block contact surface, so in essence the coolant channels and the coolant is much closer to the chip itself.

has this been done before? if so how much would be a safe amount to skim off? or would i need to buy another H60 for sacrificial investigation to figure out how much i can safely skim off the block?

any help would be appreciated
james
post #2 of 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyhackers View Post

im currently using a H60 and im thinking about some modifications.
namely a much much larger rad (8x bigger). which is pretty obviously gonna help it a great deal
however i have another idea for improvement. skimming (professionally) the cooler block contact surface, so in essence the coolant channels and the coolant is much closer to the chip itself.
has this been done before? if so how much would be a safe amount to skim off? or would i need to buy another H60 for sacrificial investigation to figure out how much i can safely skim off the block?
any help would be appreciated
james

Well you could lap it to increase the surface area, but I'm not sure about skimming some off. I imagine the produce it the way they do for a reason tongue.gif What CPU are you running and what are your temps? Maybe time for a H100 or a custom loop?
My Gaming Rig
(21 items)
 
Lenovo Desktop
(5 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 4GHz Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ASUS GeForce GTX 670-DC2T-2GD5 g.skill 16gb 1866mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate 1TB Samsung 60GB SSD Seagate 2TB External OCZ 120gb Vertex 3 SSD 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Lightscribe CD/DVD R/W ASUS Bluray R/W 200mm Thermaltake Colorshift Front Intake  200mm CoolerMaster MegaFlow Top Exhaust (x2) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
200mm Thermaltake Colorshift Side Intake Corsair H100 with 120mm (x2) Fans Windows 8 Pro ASUS VG278HE & HP 2009m 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Saitek Eclipse II Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W Thermaltake MK-I Chaser M-Audio AV40s 
Audio
Polk 10" Powered Subwoofer 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Lenovo 2MKT30AUS Intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset 3gb Elpida DDR2 @ 333MHz 
OS
Windows 7 
  hide details  
Reply
My Gaming Rig
(21 items)
 
Lenovo Desktop
(5 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 4GHz Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ASUS GeForce GTX 670-DC2T-2GD5 g.skill 16gb 1866mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate 1TB Samsung 60GB SSD Seagate 2TB External OCZ 120gb Vertex 3 SSD 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Lightscribe CD/DVD R/W ASUS Bluray R/W 200mm Thermaltake Colorshift Front Intake  200mm CoolerMaster MegaFlow Top Exhaust (x2) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
200mm Thermaltake Colorshift Side Intake Corsair H100 with 120mm (x2) Fans Windows 8 Pro ASUS VG278HE & HP 2009m 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Saitek Eclipse II Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W Thermaltake MK-I Chaser M-Audio AV40s 
Audio
Polk 10" Powered Subwoofer 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Lenovo 2MKT30AUS Intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset 3gb Elpida DDR2 @ 333MHz 
OS
Windows 7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 6
Here is a Lapped H60. I would suggest this if your wanting the block performance to increase.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1228599/lapped-h60-and-fan-situation#post_16702110
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz ...  ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SA...  ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-...  G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 24... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA ... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper 420mm  Bit Fenix Spectre Pro Fan Series - 140mm qty 3 EK-FC680 GTX DCII VGA Water Block CSQ - Acetal ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
BGears B-Blaster 140mm x 25mm 1800RPM High Spee... Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 240mm Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 Alphacool Vpp655HF pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 250 res DT Sniper CPU Block Swiftech MCP35B™ 12 VDC Pump Primochill 1/2 x 3/4 black tubing 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Bitspower Compression Fits HP 2711X  RAZER Blackwidow Ultimate - Dragon Age II Blac... CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certif... 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Xigmatek Elysium Black Super Tower  RAZER Black Wired Laser Naga Molten Special Ed... Onboard for Now Lamptron fc5 v2 fan controller 
Other
Custom White LED's 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz ...  ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SA...  ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-...  G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 24... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA ... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper 420mm  Bit Fenix Spectre Pro Fan Series - 140mm qty 3 EK-FC680 GTX DCII VGA Water Block CSQ - Acetal ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
BGears B-Blaster 140mm x 25mm 1800RPM High Spee... Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 240mm Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 Alphacool Vpp655HF pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 250 res DT Sniper CPU Block Swiftech MCP35B™ 12 VDC Pump Primochill 1/2 x 3/4 black tubing 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Bitspower Compression Fits HP 2711X  RAZER Blackwidow Ultimate - Dragon Age II Blac... CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certif... 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Xigmatek Elysium Black Super Tower  RAZER Black Wired Laser Naga Molten Special Ed... Onboard for Now Lamptron fc5 v2 fan controller 
Other
Custom White LED's 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyhackers View Post

im currently using a H60 and im thinking about some modifications.
namely a much much larger rad (8x bigger). which is pretty obviously gonna help it a great deal
however i have another idea for improvement. skimming (professionally) the cooler block contact surface, so in essence the coolant channels and the coolant is much closer to the chip itself.
has this been done before? if so how much would be a safe amount to skim off? or would i need to buy another H60 for sacrificial investigation to figure out how much i can safely skim off the block?
any help would be appreciated
james

many have used the H50/60/70/80/100 MOD to use larger radiators and most worked
for a bit and then failed. usually the pump dies. and prolly from lack of return pressure
to the pump. these pumps are not that strong to carry 2-3x more fluid and more
restriction.

lapping the block and CPU (if done correctly) might yield 2°-3­° (no guarentee). actually
more to mess up if not lapped parallel to each other and you've removed heatsink
material to much and ....

id just buy it and install it, before vesting a lot of $$.. it might not perform to your needs
in stock trim.. investing $100 in lapping and larger rads makes for a custom loop faster.

airdeano
  
Reply
  
Reply
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
so im best of investing a real water cooling kit.

in heinsight i realise skimming wont do much. ive seen a few threads where theyve taken these apart now. and likewise with other cooler blocks.

i could see potential in drilling/scratching the rear side on the non-gasket areas to increase the contact surface with the coolant.

i am an aircon and fridge engineer. i have access to many aircon tools and parts at a minimal cost. as i understand its very similar to phase cooling?

has anyone made an aircon unit into a phase cooling unit? installation and gassing would be simple. its just control method from the cpu fan header to the cooling unit itself id need some help on. and a cpu block with copper channels that i could braise to.
post #6 of 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyhackers View Post

so im best of investing a real water cooling kit.

Absolutely ... thumb.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz ...  ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SA...  ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-...  G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 24... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA ... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper 420mm  Bit Fenix Spectre Pro Fan Series - 140mm qty 3 EK-FC680 GTX DCII VGA Water Block CSQ - Acetal ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
BGears B-Blaster 140mm x 25mm 1800RPM High Spee... Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 240mm Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 Alphacool Vpp655HF pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 250 res DT Sniper CPU Block Swiftech MCP35B™ 12 VDC Pump Primochill 1/2 x 3/4 black tubing 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Bitspower Compression Fits HP 2711X  RAZER Blackwidow Ultimate - Dragon Age II Blac... CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certif... 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Xigmatek Elysium Black Super Tower  RAZER Black Wired Laser Naga Molten Special Ed... Onboard for Now Lamptron fc5 v2 fan controller 
Other
Custom White LED's 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz ...  ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SA...  ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-...  G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 24... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA ... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper 420mm  Bit Fenix Spectre Pro Fan Series - 140mm qty 3 EK-FC680 GTX DCII VGA Water Block CSQ - Acetal ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
BGears B-Blaster 140mm x 25mm 1800RPM High Spee... Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 240mm Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 Alphacool Vpp655HF pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 250 res DT Sniper CPU Block Swiftech MCP35B™ 12 VDC Pump Primochill 1/2 x 3/4 black tubing 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Bitspower Compression Fits HP 2711X  RAZER Blackwidow Ultimate - Dragon Age II Blac... CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certif... 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Xigmatek Elysium Black Super Tower  RAZER Black Wired Laser Naga Molten Special Ed... Onboard for Now Lamptron fc5 v2 fan controller 
Other
Custom White LED's 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › cooler block skim?