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Plus I love the mindset of some people that think budget boards are some sort of evil thats going to blow up and kill your whole system.

Some budget boards are great like the high end Z77 Biostars and Gigabyte's Z77x-UD3 both have great quality components considering the price.

Others in that price range on Z77 are rocking D-Pak mosfets in their motherboards which on the highest end chipset for socket is bizarre, considering people will be putting in K sku processors in those motherboards and overclocking them, its just a bad idea.
Edited by DoktorCreepy - 10/18/12 at 5:28pm
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Those saying Asus has great fan control are probably using quiet fans anyway... Ever tried silencing a 3000RPM fan on a Maximus IV Gene-Z?
It's not possible. The BIOS says that 6.0V is the minimum speed at which I can run it at...
What!?

I can throw it down to 4.0V in ASRock and have it stay at a very civilised 800RPM, but not in an expensive Asus.

So all in all, I'm definitely NOT going to watch this happen. I used to be an ASUS fan - until I built my first rig of course. Rampage II Gene with even less fan control than the OEM P5LP-LE from my old HP.
Fans ran at 1800RPM all the time - it was totally unnecessary. Tweaking software raised alerts all the time - so much so that I completely abandoned it and bought the Define Mini chassis to silence the PC.

ASUS annoyed me so much that I switched my entire customer lineup to ASRock and couldn't be happier.
Less DOAs (in fact, no DOAs at all compared with tons of problems with the supposedly reliable ASUS) and no one complained about loud fans at all...
The prices of the rigs went down and as a result we were able to better compete with other retailers.
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You're aware thats in pounds right? GBP. £140-£300 is $225 - $480. Dependant on what exchange rate you pick.
Well none of the boards I've seen on Overclockers.co.uk or scan.co.uk are £400 plus. And any that are, are for Xeon's/dual Xeon. Plus most of the Intel boards I've seen that are in the £200-£300 range are for quad SLi/CrossFire setups as well as for socket 2011. Why would anyone want to pay £300 - £500 for a board like that when the majority run single card setups and some others dual card setups. Most I've read and prefer boards that suit what they need. Not buy a board for the sake of it with all bells and whistles just so they can.
I'm curious exactly... what would you class this board as? because it seems to be such a big seller across both shops and recommended by their members. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-391-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261
Plus I love the mindset of some people that think budget boards are some sort of evil thats going to blow up and kill your whole system.

a low ..look at the new gigabyte snyper.or the evga x79 or msi big bang...i guess i dont know how much pounds = to americanl.im not saying the lower end boards are bad..im just saying by price range.
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Those saying Asus has great fan control are probably using quiet fans anyway... Ever tried silencing a 3000RPM fan on a Maximus IV Gene-Z?
It's not possible. The BIOS says that 6.0V is the minimum speed at which I can run it at...
What!?
I can throw it down to 4.0V in ASRock and have it stay at a very civilised 800RPM, but not in an expensive Asus.
So all in all, I'm definitely NOT going to watch this happen. I used to be an ASUS fan - until I built my first rig of course. Rampage II Gene with even less fan control than the OEM P5LP-LE from my old HP.
Fans ran at 1800RPM all the time - it was totally unnecessary. Tweaking software raised alerts all the time - so much so that I completely abandoned it and bought the Define Mini chassis to silence the PC.
ASUS annoyed me so much that I switched my entire customer lineup to ASRock and couldn't be happier.
Less DOAs (in fact, no DOAs at all compared with tons of problems with the supposedly reliable ASUS) and no one complained about loud fans at all...
The prices of the rigs went down and as a result we were able to better compete with other retailers.

Your complaining about a companies motherboards because of their fan control? That is almost as bad as people complaining about the amount of fan headers on a motherboard, get a decent fan controller http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811995016&name=Controller-Panels.

Its not a great idea to plug in a high performance fan into a motherboard fan header anyway http://www.overclock.net/t/565007/guide-air-cooling-questions-answered-here-updated-8-16-10
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Lol, you are a fool.
1. Most people consider intel's boards to be junk compared to Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI. You seem like the kind of person who thinks because it's expensive it's good. I'll crap in a box and put a 400 dollar price tag with a z77 mobo tag on it and im sure you'll jump at the chance to call it high end.
2. Considering we are talking motherboards here, their are for sure, high end amd boards, Asus Crosshair, Asrock Fatility, and extreme series, Gigabyte ud7's.
3. Benchmarks tell very little truth in most people eyes, what most people want is real world performance, which intel gives great single and multi threaded, but the 8 core fx cpu's do great in heavily threaded loads, matching the higher priced i5 is a few cases at least.

first if your bench marks are good..real world performance will be there..and boards that cost money....cost that for a reason...asrock and biostar..lol pffff..high range..are you kidding..asrock has higher midrange boards.. but they are not considered high end boards by any means...i mean ask some profesionalls...really ask..they will laugh at you..i see you use amd processers so what do you know about high quality..you dont...and ya amd best processer can beat an i5 in video editing..thats it!!!!! they are cheap for a reason and they are at least 3 gens behind intel...but il give amd one thing about there internal graphics stomps intel..but who uses that any way.im done on that note..im not going to argue over amd and intel..its just the facts..so face them.
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Explain to me what high range is? don't tell me I have to spend the same amount on a high end graphics card to get a high range motherboard. Because none of it matches on enthusiast shops here in the UK. Apart from what I've already said.

Is a Asus Z77 Sabertooth high end?
Edited by vf- - 10/18/12 at 5:35pm
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Explain to me what high range is? don't tell me I have to spend the same amount on a high end graphics card to get a high range motherboard. Because none of it matches on enthusiast shops here in the UK. Apart from what I've already said.
Is a Asus Z77 Sabertooth high end?

As far as Z77 boards are cocerned:

Sabertooth($240) is consider an Enthusiast board($220-$300), a step up from Mainstream board(P8Z77-V $180/ V-Pro $207, most are $150-$220ish) for Z77 Chipset.

However High End($300+) board will have a lot more features most users won't really need, they are like Luxury Cars:

Boards Like :
ASUS Maximus V Extreme ($380)
Gigabyte Z77X-UP7 ($400)

Budget boards are cheap(<$160) boards with most basic features, they will work but might be lacking some advanced feature you need.

I linked 3 Tom's Hardware.com Motherboard review so you can look through to see what each class of Motherboard offers.
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That's what I originally thought. Onboard Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, dual Lan, extra Sata and more USB etc. But I wanted to see, snitchkilla11's take. Because from his posts he makes it sound like ASRock is a complete and utter fail. No constructive posts just point finger and laugh so to speak. Like an adolescent.
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asrock isnt a fail...i have a sabettooth and its a good board..but overpriced for the plastic dust cover..im however getting an msi mpower to match my graphics cards...its 200 new and is better then the sabertooth and everything in its price range

just cause its a low end board..doest mean its garbage..people buy boards for what they need...if you only need one gpu slot or you dont wana overclock..then a low range board will do you fine...if you wana run sli maby in the future and a good overclock..then get a midrange board...if you want a tri or quad sli with a massive overclock with a watercooled setup..then get a high end board
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Asrock a fail? Since when? The 229 dollar z77 oc formula is second only behind the 379 dollar maximus v extreme in world ivy bridge over clock records.
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