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The 3570K sounds like the way to go. I intentionally left it out to see if you guys would go ahead and suggest it anyways. Plus the Z77 board looks so much better in my opinion. No microcenter closer than about a 4 hour drive, so I'll end up ordering it online. Big paycheck a week from today, wonder what I'll buy? rolleyes.gif
Thanks so much for the knowledgeable replies instead of the "AMD sucks" argument. OCN rocks! biggrin.gif

Heh, yeah the deal right now is that any post asking about gaming and a CPU the 3570k will be the answer even if it isn't in the list to choose from. The regular price of the 2500K is only about $10 less than a 3570K, but if you can find one cheap I still think it is a good way to go as well.

The only thing moderately bad about the 3570K...and the reason why a 2500K might be a better idea.

If you plan to do some high overclocking you can run into issues with the IHS on the 3750K. Intel didn't solder it on like they did in the past and used some rather cheap thermal paste. There have been issues with thermal throttling kicking in when the CPU goes to a high load because the heat isn't getting transferred out fast enough. However, I believe this takes a rather high over-voltage and overclock before it becomes an issue. There have been reports of people replacing the paste on the IHS and getting decent temp drops though.
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Another reason why i prefer Intel.
All my AMD chips dies while Intel ones just gets outdated .....have basket with intel chips biggrin.gif
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If you are focused on gaming...I think the top performer for the money is going to be the 3570K. BF3 is the only game I've seen so far that will sometimes use more than six threads, but it doesn't run much, if any, faster with only four. Other than that the only time I see eight threads used is if I am encoding a video. So the HT capable Intel quads and the FX8150 are still hardly used yet and my guess is by the time they could be they will be too obsolete to do anything. The FX8150 is really only a great CPU if you can get six or more heavily used threads running on it. However, it is actually already starting to choke. Borderlands 2 is really giving it a hard time. Though it is impossible to say if that is going to be a trend in new games from here on out. Before BL2 a FX8150 was perfectly fine for gaming with a single GPU. Most games are GPU limited rather than CPU limited. So saving on the CPU to spend more the GPU is the best course of action these days.
Of course the extra threads don't hurt...they just don't help in gaming. They help me out with work related activities when I sometimes run several Virtual Machines at a time, but even there they aren't needed. My setup is probably only a few milliseconds more responsive thanks to the HT. Even though that is the reason I bought it.
If you can find a 2500K for under $200 go with that, but otherwise the 3750K is the way to go if gaming is the key goal.
If you do go with the FX8150...go with the FX8120 instead and overclock it. Chances are that it will get the same OC as the FX8150 would anyway.
I am pretty sure the 1155 socket is near End of Life...Intel has the 2011 socket now. As for AM3+ I've heard things both ways that the next line will be backward compatible into AM3+ and some info that it won't be. I still don't know if I like the idea of the backward compatible capability. I do have a AM3 CPU in a AM2+ socket at home and it seems to work fine and all I think I am missing out on is DDR3 memory, but I don't know if every example of backward compatibility works like that.
 
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Heh, yeah the deal right now is that any post asking about gaming and a CPU the 3570k will be the answer even if it isn't in the list to choose from. The regular price of the 2500K is only about $10 less than a 3570K, but if you can find one cheap I still think it is a good way to go as well.
The only thing moderately bad about the 3570K...and the reason why a 2500K might be a better idea.
If you plan to do some high overclocking you can run into issues with the IHS on the 3750K. Intel didn't solder it on like they did in the past and used some rather cheap thermal paste. There have been issues with thermal throttling kicking in when the CPU goes to a high load because the heat isn't getting transferred out fast enough. However, I believe this takes a rather high over-voltage and overclock before it becomes an issue. There have been reports of people replacing the paste on the IHS and getting decent temp drops though.

 

Fantastic posts Vagrant. +rep for sure. thumb.gif
 
I'm going to be running an H100 for cooling, so I was hoping to push whichever chip I bought to as high of a 24/7 OC that I could.  I know that the IVB processor will not clock as high, but I like the idea of PCIe 3.0, etc. for being more "future proof".  I'm going to be running the integrated graphics until I can buy my GPU, so I figure the 3570K is the way to go.

Thanks again for the advice!
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Deffenitlly AMD !! biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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i5 is your best bet if you want to save some cash. It will perform almost identical to a FX8120/50 in multithreaded applications. And it will be much better for SLI, since the AMD architecture bottlenecks SLI.
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Check out my build i am in the same shoes as you and build the PC about 1-2 weeks ago and my xbox is now under the bed, The i7 is not needed if your gaming and doing general things and the i5 will free up money else where, have you decided what 670 you want or if you want to overclock the cpu/gpu? thumb.gif
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Check out my build i am in the same shoes as you and build the PC about 1-2 weeks ago and my xbox is now under the bed, The i7 is not needed if your gaming and doing general things and the i5 will free up money else where, have you decided what 670 you want or if you want to overclock the cpu/gpu? thumb.gif

Looking at the Superclocked FTW 4GB edition that comes with a backplate.  And yes, I plan to overclock both the CPU and GPU

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post #18 of 18
3570k should be more than enough for what you want to do and it should also compliment the GFX card also, on a note if you plan to water cool make sure you check the heat sync on the motherboard as i got caught out with mine :/ and could not fit a push pull config frown.gif
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