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thread on internet about nuclear reactors = people who use a pc think there scientists redface.gif

true for the most part, but then there are some of us who have operated reactors for several years. thumb.gif
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Why do I get the feeling that an entire generation of kids (my generation) has been brainwashed against nuclear power by environmentalist cartoons like Captain Planet and Toxic Crusaders? This sort of blind ignorance of nuclear power is what led to Yucca Mountain falling through (thanks to Harry Reid) leaving the USA with no real solution for long term waste storage; an enormous set-back for energy independence. It is our national imperative to avoid nuclear power altogether that stymies much of the potential research into waste disposal, which is arguably the linchpin of the anti-nuclear argument.
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post #53 of 75
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well its extremely safe if you take care of it. take chernobyl for example. they thought it was a random error, 25 years later pripyat is still a ghost town.

Chernobyl is a very bad example. That type of reactor is no longer used (to my knowledge). Current nuclear reactors are built in such a way that they become less reactive as they heat up, so meltdowns and such are extremely unlikely.
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People in the nuclear field don't talk about Chernobyl very much. The attitude towards Chernobyl is less "we should be ashamed of our industry because of this disaster" and more "what were they thinking!?" Asking a nuclear engineer about Chernobyl is kind of like asking a medical doctor about using leeches to cure disease - it's more of a legacy from a more ignorant age than a practical concern.

- http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10ctvo/as_requested_iama_nuclear_scientist_ama/c6cfszj
Edited by Fortunex - 9/29/12 at 5:52am
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I don't blame the lowest level of operators, but any reactor that melts down has experienced some significant level of mismanagement somewhere.

exactly.
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Chernobyl is a very bad example. That type of reactor is no longer used (to my knowledge). Current nuclear reactors are built in such a way that they become less reactive as they heat up, so meltdowns and such are extremely unlikely.
- http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10ctvo/as_requested_iama_nuclear_scientist_ama/c6cfszj
well it shouldnt, since it was a long time ago. basically 10 years before i was born. but yeah the technology in them SHOULD HAVE gotten better too. also afaik chernobyl was caused because of some error code appeared, but it turns it was a false alert. the code occurred again 2-3 times, and they thought those were fake alarms too. 4th time, we all know what happened biggrin.gif
 
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great news! the rest of the world can suck it! USA! USA! USA!
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post #56 of 75
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Chernobyl is a very bad example. That type of reactor is no longer used (to my knowledge). Current nuclear reactors are built in such a way that they become less reactive as they heat up, so meltdowns and such are extremely unlikely.
- http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10ctvo/as_requested_iama_nuclear_scientist_ama/c6cfszj

Its also extremely unlikely I would kill someone when i go over the speed limit.... that doesnt do much when i get pulled over or put in court.

Look, I like nuclear power, and we need it, the arguments you make though are poor and so many holes in it, its silly. "we almost can promise this wont melt down and make vast areas inhabitable." I would much rather someone step up and say "look, the likely hood of this plant melting down is next to zero, but in the event we go down the path these are the preventative steps we will make to insure we can control it, AND if we get into a situation where we are losing the fight we can turn to company _______ or agency ______ showing we are not arrogant and think we can fix anything".

I know that doesnt happen because companies want to stay in control so they can burry the bad news, but this is why these things happen. Hours after the power was lost in the plant they kept saying everything was under control and even the hydrogen explosions were not emitting radiation. fast forward a year we know this to be untrue and they were just posturing so they didnt look like an incompetent company.
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Its also extremely unlikely I would kill someone when i go over the speed limit.... that doesnt do much when i get pulled over or put in court.
Look, I like nuclear power, and we need it, the arguments you make though are poor and so many holes in it, its silly. "we almost can promise this wont melt down and make vast areas inhabitable." I would much rather someone step up and say "look, the likely hood of this plant melting down is next to zero, but in the event we go down the path these are the preventative steps we will make to insure we can control it, AND if we get into a situation where we are losing the fight we can turn to company _______ or agency ______ showing we are not arrogant and think we can fix anything".


That's what nuclear engineers have been saying about modern reactor designs for ten years. "This design cannot possibly blow up under any circumstances we can possibly conceive of, and even if it did we can contain it with these steps and procedures which can be reliably expected to resolve the problem."

To which people on your side of the fence reply: "BLAAGABLAGH CHERNOBYL!!!!!!! OMGGGG!"
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Fart-powered reactors are the wave of the future, to be sure.
    
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France is an excellent example of nuclear power working. They have had 12 accidents since 1969, and none have lead to meltdown or any massive radiation outbursts. France has been running 58 reactors and nuclear power is 78% of their total power portfolio.

No one talks about France's nuclear problem; there isn't one. They are exporting electricity because they can produce it so cheaply and efficiently.

An excellent read for those interested: http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf40.html

EDIT: Also like to note that France is actively decommissioning and deconstructing outdated reactors and constructing newer, safer ones to replace them. Wow, it's almost like they take it seriously and consider not only safety but the improved efficiency of new designs!
Edited by esp42089 - 9/29/12 at 4:47pm
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They're gonna have friggin sharks with friggin laser beams on top of their friggin heads.
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