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Best picture quality: AMVA or e-IPS

post #1 of 14
9/29/12 at 2:11am
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Which type of panel will give me the best picture quality for ges and movies? I won't be doing graphical work so I don't care too much about the accuracy I just want the prettiest picture with 'popping' colours. And I'll be viewing the screen head-on so I don't mind IPS glow or VA off-centre gamma shift.
Edited by Vlodaf - 9/29/12 at 2:19am
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post #2 of 14
9/29/12 at 2:27am
i think AMVA offers a better black
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post #3 of 14
9/29/12 at 2:41am
Thats a tough one. "best picture quality for games and movies" is a mixed bag. For colour accuracy, IPS is the best(I have no experience with PLS so I can't comment there) and for gaming TN is better with its less input lag.

Now I've heard that current IPS are really good and have less lag while TN still doesn't have as good colour reproduction as IPS, and it probably never will. Hence go IPS.
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post #4 of 14
9/29/12 at 3:26am
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I know TN sucks when it comes to picture quality. That, and the fact I don't really play fast-paced games (Battlefield probably being the fastest) was why I didn't consider TN to begin with.
However, I do play a lot of horror games l, hence why I would love the deep blacks of an AMVA panel. Especially now the response times on a VA and an IPS screen are equal in the latest generation of panels, it seems like a good choice. I am concerned however, that colours on an AMVA screen aren't as vivid (or in a lesser degree, as accurate) as on an IPS screen. Since I can't do a side-to-side comparison I was hoping you guys could help me smile.gif

Oh and I probably will be calibrating my screen, if that makes a difference.
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post #5 of 14
9/29/12 at 3:34am
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Originally Posted by TFT Central 
AMVA still has some limitations however in practice, still suffering from the off-centre contrast shift you see from VA matrices. Viewing angles are therefore not as wide as IPS technology and the technology is often dismissed for colour critical work as a result. Contrast ratios are capable of being very high, but it seems many desktop monitors have only average contrast ratio performance comparable to older P-MVA and modern TN Film panels, and not surpassing PVA matrices. Some more recent AMVA modules are paired with W-LED backlighting and do offer some staggering static contrast ratios of >3000:1 though. Response time remains competitive and in line with the developments made with the P-MVA generation of panels. However, it does not appear to be as reactive as some overdriven TN Film and IPS matrices when it comes to pixel response times.
Source here.

Seems like IPS would be the way to go regardless if you ask me.
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post #6 of 14
9/29/12 at 4:03am
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Thing is I don't mind about the off-centre contrast shift and according to the review of GW2450HM the latest generation's VA response times are in line with IPS. I have searched al around the web (including TFTcentral and Prad.de) and I can't find an answer to which technology has the best picture quality when faced head-on anywhere. The VA screen I'm considering is the Philips 249C4QHSB and if i would choose an IPS screen it would probably be the U2412M or one of the new LG screens.
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post #7 of 14
9/29/12 at 4:10am
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Thing is I don't mind about the off-centre contrast shift and according to the review of GW2450HM the latest generation's VA response times are in line with IPS. I have searched al around the web (including TFTcentral and Prad.de) and I can't find an answer to which technology has the best picture quality when faced head-on anywhere. The VA screen I'm considering is the Philips 249C4QHSB and if i would choose an IPS screen it would probably be the U2412M or one of the new LG screens.

Well, I came from a regular ol' TN panel 1080p 23" myself up to my IPS 2560x1600 monitor. Honestly it was an absolutely amazing night and day difference. I can't go back to TN anymore, they give me headaches (dead serious). So I may be slightly biased. But I haven't heard anything at all from any of our monitor guys about that Philips monitor (or any Philips monitor as of recent). Not saying its a bad display, just saying I haven't personally heard of it.

I have, however....read and heard a LOT of good things on IPS, which is why I bought one.

I'd personally rather suggest the tried and true IPS panel. And the U2412M is a whole lot of monitor for your money, it really is. Although so are the Korean IPS monitors too though, the 27" 2560x1440 models.

I dunno, lol. Like I said, I can only recommend personally whats tried and true, and what I can find a LOT of information on. That Philips monitor doesn't even have a proper product page (it feels like half of it is missing). And the panel technology just....I dunno, I couldn't find much on it.
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post #8 of 14
9/29/12 at 6:12am
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I know the Philips monitor is quite a rare one to come by in the USA, but I live in The Netherlands, home of Philips, hence why I am considering it (I believe you can't even get Philips screens in the US, can you?), so it is an easy screen to find.
I am using a (old) TN screen now as well, so it will be an improvement either way. It's just that I always want tue best of the best (or at least the best in the price range). I've been searching for a good screen for a month now and I still haven't decided, I think that is a pretty good indication for that. smile.gif
I have been looking at those Korean screens, but I want a good warranty and you only get those on the 120hz.net en Overlord models I believe which cost a lot to ship to Holland and I would have to pay a lot of import taxes...
Dilemmas, dilemmas... wink.gif If they only made the Samsung PVA tv I have in a 24 or 27 inch version with a good overdrive....Anyone else wants to enlighten me with their opinion?
Thanks for your response by the way, Pioneer, it is good to know that it IS worth it to upgrade to a non-TN panel
Edited by Vlodaf - 9/29/12 at 6:16am
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post #9 of 14
9/29/12 at 3:12pm
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I know the Philips monitor is quite a rare one to come by in the USA, but I live in The Netherlands, home of Philips, hence why I am considering it (I believe you can't even get Philips screens in the US, can you?), so it is an easy screen to find.
I am using a (old) TN screen now as well, so it will be an improvement either way. It's just that I always want tue best of the best (or at least the best in the price range). I've been searching for a good screen for a month now and I still haven't decided, I think that is a pretty good indication for that. smile.gif
I have been looking at those Korean screens, but I want a good warranty and you only get those on the 120hz.net en Overlord models I believe which cost a lot to ship to Holland and I would have to pay a lot of import taxes...
Dilemmas, dilemmas... wink.gif If they only made the Samsung PVA tv I have in a 24 or 27 inch version with a good overdrive....Anyone else wants to enlighten me with their opinion?
Thanks for your response by the way, Pioneer, it is good to know that it IS worth it to upgrade to a non-TN panel

Actually I cannot say anything good about those two companies you mentioned on the Korean models. Let's just leave it that discussion of them isn't exactly allowed on OCN, and we can leave it at that.

Now, on the other hand, you CAN get them off ebay from plenty of reputable sellers, and you can even buy ones with a pixel perfect warranty on them. I would trust somebody who's been selling those monitors for a long time, and has a solid reputation behind them over some back door company anyday.

Either way, I do understand your dillema, I'm just sorry I can't be of more help.
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post #10 of 14
9/29/12 at 3:38pm
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I'll probably just stick to the established brands. And no worries, it's nice of you to even take the time to answer my questions.
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