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I've not looked at bose in about 3 years but 3 years ago this was my findings:

They're vastly overpriced for the quality they give you.

Overall, Bose speakers can do "loud" but they don't do clear sound which is more important. They don't have a proper subwoofer, so low sounds are muted, and they don't have proper tweeters so the high sounds are tinny and don't sound right. To compensate, they just put out a LOT of sound. But LOUD doesn't equal quality.

There have been plenty of independent performance reports published about Bose's speakers because Bose itself refuses to actually publish any proper specifications themselves. They're not hard to find...Searching for "Bose sucks" gives you plenty of hits.

BOSE PROS:
- BOSE sounds good (but not great)
- Innovative designs (high WAF)
- Easy to use
- Have an aura to them such that your friends who don't know a lot about hi-fi will think you have a really great system.

BOSE CONS:
- Expensive for what you get.
- Leave a lot to be desired in the low range
- Leave a lot to be desired in the midrange
- Your audiophile friends will scold you for buying them

Many people buy BOSE because they are BOSE. These folks rarely listen to other brands. I think BOSE is the "safe bet" (and I don't mean that in a nice way)

I think it is fun to look around and definitely think that you should. You can find a system that is much better for what you'll spend on BOSE.


Wood vs Plastic Wood wins every time, until they come up with some ground breaking technology in plastics Wood will win. it holds/displaces sound so much more pleasantly
Edited by Jim888 - 9/29/12 at 9:24am
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post #22 of 41
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Im not sure where your from but in the UK we have a company called Bose which make amazing speakers. I have a set of their Bose Companion 5's which are made of metal and sound fantastic on my PC! They set me back £300 though.

I came from a Logitech 5.1 X540 system and its night and day difference but you get what you pay for. Wooden speakers do tend to have better bass in my experience, plastic vibrate and cause unwanted vibrations.

I think its very much personal preference on which is better. thumb.gif

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I prefer wood myself though it would be one of my last concerns. But it's all in the individual's ears.
post #23 of 41
I'm not sure anyone will be able to answer your last question OP. You'll have to do your own research, look up reviews and perhaps go to a store or two and give these speakers a listen.
 
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post #24 of 41
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I'd take a better performing driver over a better cabinet design almost every time until diminishing sound returns kicks in hard, in which case I'd concern myself with the cabinet at that point.
That said, the driver IMO is much more important for bass/FR than the cabinet. KRK RP5's are made of this silly looking plastic garbage and they're very bassy speakers.
My HSU VTf-3 is made of this really hard plastic stuff (actually this plastic garbage must be like 3 inches thick..thing weighs a ton) and it's really great for the low end.
Since the HSU unit appears to used a stamped frame driver, you would probably be surprised to find out how little he pays for them...

As far as subs go, poor setup is usually the number one reason why it may sound boomy. A dead cabinet with a relatively inexpensive driver can sound very good(HSU, Elemental Designs, BFM, etc...). This is due to humans not being sensitive to distortion in the bass region compared to mids and lower highs.
post #25 of 41
If you look up building speakers, particle board and accoustic insulation are preferred.
Quality sound can come from plastic or metal speakers. It involves accoustic materials inside though.
For the most part bass demands a box, tweeters only need positioning.
Generally, for bass, large cheap drivers (if good) are equal to small expensive drivers,

Plastic subs can come either way, and just bad.
Efficency plays a part.
As dooes perceived "goodnes" features. Power handling "ratings" are a measure of a components ability to disapate heat. Yet public purchasing and marketing have driven the "need" for "high power" ratings for amps and speakers.

About 1970 I had box speakers by Utah ( Utah sold drivers and guitar speakers at the time). Vented base enclosure using a paper 12 inch woofer and two horn piezo electric tweeters. Large, great sound, Rated 20 watts. Driven by a at the time reasonably good receiver 18/watts channel.
Did not get better soundd till 1980s with ADS LS 780?, 7XX anyway, Large wooden box, plastic speakers (rubber srround, didn't deteriorate), metal dome tweeter I think

Excellent sound, high power handing (for the time). Utahs $80 pair, ADS 1200 a pair.

Listen to the sound per dollar. I liked the ADS better than speakers costing a lot more.
post #26 of 41
Particle board is preferred for cheap speakers due to it's price and weight.

Aside from the subjectional part, the rest of your post comes across as pretty uninformed too.
post #27 of 41
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Quote:
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I'd take a better performing driver over a better cabinet design almost every time until diminishing sound returns kicks in hard, in which case I'd concern myself with the cabinet at that point.
That said, the driver IMO is much more important for bass/FR than the cabinet. KRK RP5's are made of this silly looking plastic garbage and they're very bassy speakers.
My HSU VTf-3 is made of this really hard plastic stuff (actually this plastic garbage must be like 3 inches thick..thing weighs a ton) and it's really great for the low end.
Since the HSU unit appears to used a stamped frame driver, you would probably be surprised to find out how little he pays for them...

As far as subs go, poor setup is usually the number one reason why it may sound boomy. A dead cabinet with a relatively inexpensive driver can sound very good(HSU, Elemental Designs, BFM, etc...). This is due to humans not being sensitive to distortion in the bass region compared to mids and lower highs.

So ...are you saying this PLASTIC cabinet can be....goood? lmaosmiley.gif
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So ...are you saying this PLASTIC cabinet can be....goood? lmaosmiley.gif
Yes, it can be. For example, look at Wilson Audio.
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So ...are you saying this PLASTIC cabinet can be....goood? lmaosmiley.gif
Yes, it can be. For example, look at Wilson Audio.

Then I win.

End of discussion.
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While that's wonderful...what does that have to do with wood vs plastic?

I was sort of implying that the CERWIN-VEGAs are wooden, and the Logitechs are plastic... Thought people might've picked that up.
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