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OK, this might seem a bit general in scope upon first glance, but I've already concluded that my computer's limiting component at this point is my GPU. Nothing else seems too far outdated, and the computer is still running fine from a productivity standpoint.

I'm looking to update my current rig over the span of the next couple of years. It was originally built in late 2008, if my memory serves.

ASUS Rampage II GENE motherboard
Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Genuine Intel Core i7-920 "Bloomfield" SLBEJ @ 3.4GHz (SpeedStep, HT both enabled)
9GB DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Hitachi 1TB 7200RPM HDD, Toshiba 120GB 5400RPM HDD (salvaged from a dead laptop)
Asus ENGTX260 (NVIDIA GTX260 Core 216) @ 650MHz Graphics/1150MHz Memory/1400MHz Shaders
Samsung SyncMaster B2330HD 23" 1920x1080 TV, Asus VH203T 20" 1600x900 monitor
Delta 500W PSU
SoundMAX Integrated Digital 7.1 High Definition Audio
Asus USB N-13 802.11b/g/n wireless adapter
Rosewill RK-9000 with Cherry MX Blue switches
Asus OEM optical mouse, Microsoft Arc Touch wireless mouse

In terms of general use, this is my main gaming rig, ever since I ditched console gaming a few years ago. I (generally try to) max every game I play at 1920x1080 on the TV, and Alt-Tab a lot between the screens, thus I tend to use "Fullscreen Windowed" mode when playing.

Obviously, with a GPU that old, it's having trouble maxing recent games (Skyrim [medium] and BF3 [low] come to mind). However, recently, I was playing SC2 (on "ultra"), and the screen blacked out mid-match and came back, rendering once every four seconds or so. Needless to say, I lost that match, and that was a bit of a wake-up call in terms of my GPU's reliability. Dialing back the OC settings on the GPU didn't really seem to do much, both performance and reliability-wise. The inside of my computer is clean, and the card idles at 62 degrees Celsius; under load, it hits 83 degrees. Pushing the fan to 100%, it still idles at 58 degrees and hits 77 under load. However, it has served me well since I've owned it, under (largely identical) OC settings since day 1 of ownership.

Based on intuition alone, I can guess that my PSU should be upgraded ASAP, for future upgrades' sake. From there on, I'd speculate that my GPU should be next.

I was considering upgrading once the "second generation" of DX12 cards went live. However, seeing as how Windows 8 is only bringing DirectX11.1, I am reconsidering this idea. Now, I'm equally considering upgrading once the Nvidia 7xx series comes out. I know I'm speaking purely in hypotheticals there, but does that sound reasonable? I basically planned to do a GPU upgrade every five years, to that level, and am still hoping to adhere to that. I don't really plan on SLI/XFiring my cards solely due to cost-prohibitive reasons.

Doing some research, an Nvidia card still seems to be better for my needs, since noise and heat appear to be an issue, nor don't care that much about OCing my GPU to its limits; I would be open to purchasing AMD's option also, should its product be superior. Any recommendations towards specific cards/tiers, manufacturers, etc? I don't really see myself purchasing anything beyond an Nvidia x70 or AMD x970 series card.

I appreciate your advice, and thanks in advance!
Edited by azn6138 - 9/29/12 at 12:45pm
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Depending on your budget, there are several options available (all can play latest titles @ 1080p):

200 - 250$ Budget:
- Nvidia 480GTX (180$)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EHWMP6/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_ir03?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1SY8YS9RX487R3QQE7CR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1353700702&pf_rd_i=193870011

- AMD 6950 (180$)
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-100312-3L/dp/B005X64QAG/ref=zg_bs_284822_6

- Nvidia 660GTX SC (230$)
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-2662-KR/dp/B00966IREK/ref=zg_bs_284822_5


251 - 350$ Budget
- AMD 7950 (299$ Best bang-for-buck)
http://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-Express-Graphics-900492/dp/B0072DKYA4/ref=sr_1_21?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1348947208&sr=1-21&keywords=7950


above 350$ Budget
- Any non-reference 7970 or 670 will trade blows in different games @ 1080p. But both deliver Top notch performance.

Note: SSD's are very cheap now...Get a 120GB SAMSUNG830 or Intel520 as your main boot drive. You'll thank me later. And get a good PSU with 600+ watts if you wanna SLI/Cfire in the future.
Edited by eXXon - 9/29/12 at 12:41pm
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Note: SSD's are very cheap now...Get a 120GB SAMSUNG830 or Intel520 as your main boot drive. You'll thank me later. And get a good PSU with 600+ watts if you wanna SLI/Cfire in the future.

Thanks for your advice.

I was actually going to upgrade to an SSD on Black Friday of this year. I think my main HDD is seeing a bit of slowdown now (after four years of wear), and the <$1/GB price point is exciting. Probably will turn the 1TB into a media drive, then upgrade the SSD while I'm at it. The other thing that I was considering is changing my case from what I have now to either the Corsair 300R, Antec One, Three Hundred Two or Nine Hundred.

I just edited the main post a bit... Budget is less concerning to me, since I plan on overhauling my graphics capability every five years; therefore, I'd rather keep to current-gen stuff at each upgrade. One of my friends just built a new rig this summer, and picked up a GTX670; I'm basically considering the x60 Ti and x70 cards, along with their AMD equivalents. I personally don't see enough value in SLi/XFire to warrant the price of buying a second card over an early upgrade, if necessary. After all, I only use two monitors.
Edited by azn6138 - 9/29/12 at 1:07pm
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If you can afford the 670, then go for it thumb.gif. Oc'ed, it easily reaches 680 levels of performance. If you can get one with a non-reference cooler, that would be better.

As for Antec cases, I know they're good but I have never owned one. So someone else should be giving advise on it smile.gif
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It is still unknown what kind of of games will be released when Nvidia's GTX 700 series and AMD's HD 8000 series come out because that will be the generation that will be on the market when the new consoles will be released, so it's very probably that games will make much heavier use of AI and effects that need CPU power, and all that will translate into PC games that are more demanding on the hardware than the ones we are seeing now, which means that your current CPU might struggle with the new generation of GPUs. Even for the new high end cards you should already have it overclocked more than you have it now, especially for those games that only take advantage of two or four cores and don't benefit from 8 threads.

Having said that, if you upgrade your PSU to a quality PSU, preferably 80 Plus Bronze or better, preferably in the 600w - 750w range, and overclock your CPU to 4 Ghz, you should be good with a current GTX 670 GPU. This setup will allow you to play most games at 1080p with max or almost max details for at least a year, possibly two.
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It is still unknown what kind of of games will be released when Nvidia's GTX 700 series and AMD's HD 8000 series come out because that will be the generation that will be on the market when the new consoles will be released, so it's very probably that games will make much heavier use of AI and effects that need CPU power, and all that will translate into PC games that are more demanding on the hardware than the ones we are seeing now, which means that your current CPU might struggle with the new generation of GPUs. Even for the new high end cards you should already have it overclocked more than you have it now, especially for those games that only take advantage of two or four cores and don't benefit from 8 threads.
Having said that, if you upgrade your PSU to a quality PSU, preferably 80 Plus Bronze or better, preferably in the 600w - 750w range, and overclock your CPU to 4 Ghz, you should be good with a current GTX 670 GPU. This setup will allow you to play most games at 1080p with max or almost max details for at least a year, possibly two.

Hence why I plan on doing a new GPU only. My marginally overclocked i7-920 is still keeping up with my friend's i5-3570k, so its fine thus far. I'm trying to upgrade in stages, basically splurging on a single upgradable part when I have noticeable slowdown. What's especially annoying is that a CPU upgrade for me means a new motherboard and is a comparably significant expense. Likewise, since I'm on triple-channel RAM right now, that would also change if I upgraded architectures.

While it may be a bit naive of me, I think my GPU is likely to be my only mid-cycle upgrade; I'll probably do a completely new rig in a few years time (or whenever my i7-920 dies/can't cope anymore).
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