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On the silver edition one:
This power supply was exactly what I was looking for. A nice modular design with 1000+ watts. All the wires came in a nice case and the power supply itself was in a nice fabric case. The power supply fit perfectly into my Corsair 600T. Seems to be providing good power to my system (GTX 680 and 3770k). Very happy.
Cons: Cons:
CPU power cord too short
My only complain is that the CPU power cord was too short to correctly route behind my corsair 600T. This is one of the cords that wasn't modular. It's a little frustrating because I'll need to buy a separate extender. It's the only cord that wasn't long enough.
Another person also using 600t:
Pros: -Quiet
-Nice Looking
-Modular Except for Cpu and mainboard (necessary plugs)
-nice sleeved cables
-nice looking from my side panel window
On the gold edition one:
Completely modular, and looks great!
Fits perfectly inside my Corsair Graphite Series 600T (White Edition).
Another review:
They fit perfectly in the 800D and the 600T I have, I tried those both.
Another (all of these are from newegg):
Pros: Plenty of power, great warranty, very quiet, plenty of cables.
Cons: none
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Idk what an extension cable is but the thought of waiting a month to order one because I can't find them on Peru is scary.

That psu's CPU cord will fit, it's just a very tight fit. I had the 1050 in my 800D which is much bigger than the 600T and it fit in mine, just really tight to get it, you will need to bend the cord and tug on it to get it to fit.

I don't mean to make it sound like "OMG it's going to ruin the PSU". An extension cable is just that. You plug the CPU cord to the extension and then the extension to the CPU socket. It's like an adapter per say
     
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As someone who hasn't build a pc before, what you just described sounds extremely scary. I'm imagining the motherboard or cpu breaking in half. I think I will rather get the one that fits or look at other alternatives intead of getting that one, specially as I know it will have some problems before getting it.

May I ask why you have two different high-end computers?
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With $3000, I would much rather build 2 x $1500 gaming rigs, or 3x $1000 rigs, that way when friends come over, the lan party is already setup and ready to roll. There's actually a lot of "value" in this approach:

1. You only need big mechanical storage on 1 of the builds, the storage of media and such can be shared over the network. The other machine or 2 can get by with a single 128-256GB drive. Also, the machine with the big drive, can use the large drive as a boot drive, and for SSD boot and program loading performance can get by with a 30-64GB SSD configured as a cache drive instead.
2. One of the machines can use the living-room television/HT as it's monitor/speakers. No monitor/speakers needed there. This machine winds up doubling as the media/HTPC rig when it is not being used to slaughter invading aliens or simulate a world war.
3. Your girlfriend will never be able to complain that you are hogging the good computer, because you will have 2-3 good computers to choose from.


I'm in the camp that will argue that there is not enough to gain above an i5 1155 build in gaming performance to justify the added costs to the build. Dual GTX670s is perfectly justifiable for a high end gaming rig, the 4GB edition is questionable unless intended resolution will rise during the life of the machine. Remember, you can always "buy back" available VRAM as newer games come out with higher texture detail, through the use of lower AA settings. The PSU selected is overkill but there is nothing wrong with it. A well made 550W would actually handle an Ivy 1155 build with SLI GTX670s with no OCing. A 650W would be enough for the 2011 based build, and 750-850W is all the headroom needed for additional drives, fans, OCing etc. Assuming the smart move to the i5 Ivy is made, I'd probably opt for something like the seasonic X750, which is on sale for $128 right now, or a Capstone 750W modular, currently priced at $100.

Corsair Vengence RAM is fine if you are water-blockin the CPU, but the version with the tall heatsinks interferes with lots of aftermarket air cooling. Not applicable in this case but something to consider if you think this RAM would ever be transplanted to a different rig. Personally, if you need 16GB, I would be buying the Mushkin 2x8GB 1866 1.35V kit for ~$100, if for no other reason than my on again off again fascination with RAM overclocking which is basically pointless but this extra $20 isn't going to bust the bank on a build of this budget anyway. Obviously I'm talking about an 1155 build here that doesn't need quad channel, and if 16GB is not needed, the Sammy WondeRam 2x4GB kit.

8x8x @PCIE 3.0 is the same bandwidth as 16x16x @PCIE 2.0. There was no noteworthy bottlenecking caused by 8x8x@2.0 speeds on previous generation GPUs, so I don't see how GTX670s would be bottlenecked by 8x8x@3.0 speeds (which is available on the 1155 platform, and is equal to 16x16x@2.0 speeds). Gaming performance also gets no benefit from the added memory bandwidth of the X79/2011 configuration.

Sammy 830 is a superb choice. KEEP IT!
     
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Your argument does make sense. I have a friend with three computers in his house that can run games decently and it's pretty useful when we have crazy lans. However... Just look at my build. It's beautiful, I could put three monitors and it would still run everything at high. I'm not even going to give an argument, I wouldn't trade it for a hundred $1000 computers. Girlfriend? I doubt I'll remember my girlfriend the first month I have this anyways haha.
But all jokes aside I do see the value in that, but I'm also very happy with my overkill rig :-)

Thanks for the advice. Half the stuff is already bought so I can't make changes anymore. I know I could have probably saved $200 by downgrading the motherboard, cpu and PSU, but I'm still happy with what I got. I know the term future-proofing is useless in most scenarios, but this PSU should actually be pretty useful four years from now unless things change drastically and the 2011 motherboard may give me access to the new cpu's so it isn't really wasted.
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http://i.imgur.com/7ZV3K.png
Here's proof that states otherwise. 20fps for 1080p and 30fps for an extreme resolution is a pretty big improvement. Of course this may be biased or they may not have controlled for some things, but that's also possible in your proof. I did take the advice of a lot of people in many things but I chose to believe the people that said 2011 is worth it in this case.

One screenshot that doesn't show lane configurations and instead PCI-E 2.0 to PCI-E 3.0. Most 1155 boards that have ivy bridge compatibility have PCI-E 3.0 (all if you're spending over $110).

There is no difference between 8x/8x and x16/x16 that anyone could ever notice right now. PCI-E 2.0 and PCI-E 3.0 is a whole different story, but since both 2011 and 1155 have PCI-E 3.0 and that's the "proof" you linked, it still makes no difference but saving money.
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Your argument does make sense. I have a friend with three computers in his house that can run games decently and it's pretty useful when we have crazy lans. However... Just look at my build. It's beautiful, I could put three monitors and it would still run everything at high. I'm not even going to give an argument, I wouldn't trade it for a hundred $1000 computers. Girlfriend? I doubt I'll remember my girlfriend the first month I have this anyways haha.
But all jokes aside I do see the value in that, but I'm also very happy with my overkill rig :-)
Thanks for the advice. Half the stuff is already bought so I can't make changes anymore. I know I could have probably saved $200 by downgrading the motherboard, cpu and PSU, but I'm still happy with what I got. I know the term future-proofing is useless in most scenarios, but this PSU should actually be pretty useful four years from now unless things change drastically and the 2011 motherboard may give me access to the new cpu's so it isn't really wasted.

What's going to be the first game you play on it? What are you upgrading from? It's always fun to be like "Holy **** worlds come alive" when going from low resolution low graphics to high/high tongue.gif
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The first game I'm playing is Metro 2033 in 3D at the highest it can get! Then I may try playing Skyrim again with all the hidef mods I can find, and play through Crysis smile.gif I may even forget about my BF2 boycott and get it to see how it runs with this. And I almost forgot Borderlands 2! And then I'm watching Avatar in 3D, I never watched that movie :-) Then I'm going to see how different my kdr is on CS with zero input lag.
I'm going to have a ceremony celebrating the birth of my computer when I build it this Saturday. I'm inviting a few friends over and I'll put small candles surrouding my pc while this song is playing.

I'm upgrading from an ibuypower laptop that had SLI 285, 4gb ram. a 1.7ghz i7 cpu and I think an 18" screen. It felt like a beast two years ago but it started breaking down in the past months and now it can barely turn on. Right now I'm using some random all-in-one PC I borrowed and it struggles running Half Life 1 with everything at low at 800x600 resolution so I haven't played any games for over a month. I conveniently have a few days off after this week and they shall be used to their fullest! My girlfriend is mad as I haven't seen her for a month and all I've been talking about is my computer haha.
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My girlfriend just got this! By opening packages we managed to fit it inside her backpack :-). I just hope she's able to fly with a backpack full of hardware without any trouble from the aiport security.
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Finish the games before you finish her if you know what I mean hahaha

Well good luck building your rig! And the reason I have 2 high ends is because I really enjoy building them. Had the extra money so I got another
     
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Hahaha I will tongue.gif

Thank you, I wouldn't have understood the joy of building pcs a month ago, but after going through all this the excitement of building the pc is a pretty unique feeling - and I haven't even gotten the parts yet!
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I wish my girl friend would do this for me frown.gif LUCKY GUY SHES A KEEPER !! smile.gif
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