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hey about setting turbo mode to enable instead of auto?

Tried it, including leaving default multipliers, as well as manually setting all turbo multipliers to 44.

I also tried everything from AUTO to 1200w and 300A on the power/current limits.

Same thing.
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i wouldn't touch those settings, they are usually maxed out when left on auto. It is just very odd, as I just tried again with IBT and 1.5v and LLC on high and I don't get throttling even without a fan on the VRM. It is just very odd, but you are saying some of the throttling is with BCLK? is that right?
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Yes, I've seen BCLK drop from 100 to 95.
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[..but you'd figure someone (esp Gigabyte) would test with C2s since C2s are all that's being made, and are by far the most common stepping to get for new parts.

Don't remember any throttle issue at 44x on my C2, was on beta F4b then. Moved on to another test mobo now.

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Yes, I've seen BCLK drop from 100 to 95.

see that is very odd, BCLK shouldn't drop at all even if throttle.

Hey so you have in 3d power set it to extreme performance right?>
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Don't remember any throttle issue at 44x on my C2, was on beta F4b then.

This is very interesting. I really have no idea what is causing this throttling then.

What version of Prime95 is that?
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see that is very odd, BCLK shouldn't drop at all even if throttle.
Hey so you have in 3d power set it to extreme performance right?>

Yes, I've tried extreme performance on the power phases.

The BCLK drops momentarily when the multiplier shifts.
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I did have occasional throttling at 45x on F4b though so probably an interplay of the specific mobo & CPU. Just couldn't pass P95 blend consistently at 45x either but 44x was all good.

btw, this same CPU passed P95 Blend 4.5Ghz stable on my other mobos.
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Ahem,
HTH
Huh, wonder why I didn't notice that before... tongue.gif
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I think the source of my problem has to be with Gigabyte's Turbo implementation, and that the current CPU speed/turbo multipliers reported in the MIT current status actually are mostly representative.

I cannot get stock speeds to throttle with any combination of settings, even with high voltage and the phases set to light power. Also, the throttling bounces between the multiplier I have set and 35x, which is the default max turbo multiplier for 5 or 6 cores.
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I did have occasional throttling at 45x on F4b though so probably an interplay of the specific mobo & CPU. Just couldn't pass P95 blend consistently at 45x either but 44x was all good.
btw, this same CPU passed P95 Blend 4.5Ghz stable on my other mobos.

So that was Blend? Cause blend doesn't generally pull anywhere near the current of the small or large FFT tests.

i was using large FFTs (with AVX in Prime95 27.7); I'll have to see what blend does.

Edit: Blend still throttles for me, but not quite as heavily.

Edit2: No throttling at stock settings what so ever, even the full 35x default turbo multiplier works fine.

I'm in the annoyingly ironic position of stock offering better performance than any OC I can achive on this board.

Edit again: Using all defaults except for VTT and IMC voltage, I was able to get 1.25 to work at the stock 32 multiplier with turbo disabled. Again, no throttling here. Going to see how far I can go.
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So, I can run the chip all day at 4GHz with the 1.25x strap, and no throttling, but it has major cold boot issues. I need to boot at around 25x and up the multiplier a few steps at a time to get it to POST. And I can't go higher than 4GHz because 1.25x doesn't work on F3 or older BIOSes or the F4 BIOSes with turbo enabled, and the F4s lock my multiplier to a max of 32x if turbo is disabled.

It's definitely power throttling, and at a ridiculously low level of about 200w, regardless of settings, as best as I can figure. I should be able to push an easy 300+ watt through this thing 24/7 with no issues.

Also, there is another issue I overlooked earlier. The Intel MEI component wouldn't take any drivers I tried without producing an Error 10 (device cannot start), until I used a driver from Windows Update Catalog for a totaly different chipset, whose part just happened to have the same device id.

I'd send the board back, but I'm far from convinced that there is anything physically wrong with it, and even less convinced that the average RMA tech would even find the problems I'm seeing, and would just send my board back to me, probably in worse condition than it's in now.

I've got a few days more in which I can probably get a refund, and this is looking like the best option, even if I have to eat a 15% restocking fee. As it stands, I don't think any of these BIOSes I've used are remotely in release condition and it really irks me that Gigabyte could ship a product with so many bugs. The hardware seem great, but I cannot wait around forever for firmware that lets me use it.
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