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has anybody tried the new F4x bios?

It's available through the tweatown forum http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/28441-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios-770.html , apparently some irst and OC updates

I've used it.

No improvement in max OC, but allowed me to use slightly less VCCSA (IMC) and VTT for the same clocks.

Also may have erased or corrupted the firmware for the VIA USB 3.0 controller, and does not allow me to return to BIOS setup after the PSU is powered down, so any time there is a power outage or I move my system, I need to flip to the backup BIOS and reflash the primary.

Overall, it's a disaster for me, but that's par for the course with this board's firmware.

Quite agitated that the board has been out almost a year and still doesn't have a viable BIOS anywhere.

Edit: USB issues were resolved with a reflash, then manually removing the hidden VIA USB controllers from device manager, and rebooting to allow them to be re-detected.

Getting into the BIOS setup is still problematic.

Additionally, most all post F3 BIOSes still have the following issues, in my experience:

- USB mice with polling rates other than 125Hz have no horizontal input while in UEFI.

- PS/2 keyboards cannot be used to enter UEFI setup.

- UEFI setup cannot be entered with DEL if Full Screen logo is disabled.
Edited by Blameless - 8/10/13 at 9:22pm
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Hmm...it would be easy described as very, very moody and erratic mobo!!! Some settings just induce endless reboots, even if that particular setup worked flawlessly minutes ago...very next time you reboot, it ends up in powering up and shutting down until end of the world!
I had been running it on F4W, almost since the beginning, but, so far no luck having anything proper than 4.3, even that has to be used with turbo on, and turbo multi's propped up to 44X...
Well, as I said earlier, very nice mobo...just BIOS is holding it waaay back....
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Hmm...I am testing an F4x mod2 BIOS...flashed it, flashed MEI to 8.1.50.1456..using MEI driver 9.5.14.1721...Irste 3.7...chipset driver 9.4.3.1011...Catalyst 13.10 Beta...all others are not so important...Win 7...voltages, core 1.286V, Vtt 1.1 and VCCSA 1.1V!! All that gave me run at 4.3 using multi only! Now, there's no hope in this universe to get it done at 125, so no luck for me to go anything further than 4.3. Any time I enable 1.25 multi, it shuts down three times and then boot into BIOS telling me what I already know. I have changed all those voltages, only option to go to 4.5...is if I let voltages on auto which results with 1.32V core and about 1.23V VTT and VCCSA...
I read a multiple sources and no one had such stubborn CPU...it works at 43X100 with Turbo enabled without a hitch...even with a mere 1.25V on core...VTT and VCCSA can go as low as 1.08V, no stability issues..machine purring days and nites on IBT or prime or anything you drop onto...but there's simply no hope to run it, say, 125X36 for a total of 4.5...it is impossible!
I know this is server chipset, but just being one of these, I would expect greater tolerances...but no hope!
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hi, i try right now the X79SUP5.F4y take new feature but if a oc to 4.5ghz 36x125 now shot me 3.5ghz in system or cpu-z show me 3.5 is a bug? after update the bios work verywell with f4x, any more happen this error?, thx and sorry for my bad english.
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hi, i try right now the X79SUP5.F4y take new feature but if a oc to 4.5ghz 36x125 now shot me 3.5ghz in system or cpu-z show me 3.5 is a bug? after update the bios work verywell with f4x, any more happen this error?, thx and sorry for my bad english.

It's a very buggy bios. There are certain odd issues with the cpu speed in the bios not being read correctly. Turbo boost is also very buggy. However having said that for me personally its a huge improvement over the previous bioses because I am now able to run my TridentX memory at their rated 2400mhz (stable so far after an hour or so IntelBurnTest with the cpu at 4.5ghz). I was only able to get my memory running at 2133mhz previously (2400mhz would not even post). They seemed to have cleaned up the memory settings mess and now all of my memory's xmp profiles are set correctly. I found running the cpu at 128.75 x35 worked for me to get it running at 4.5ghz stable. I'll post more of my findings as i continue my trial and error adventure with this bios but so for its a promising improvement over previous versions even though its got more bugs then a baboon's arse.
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I am still amazed by you guys being actually able to run 125MHz strap...in my case, there's no way in hell to do it...no matter what I do, even drop the RAM speed to 1000 or CPU speed to the 2400...still nothing works...
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I couldn't run it at the 125 strap either until the F4y bios update a few days ago (best i could do was 118). This new bios is still buggy as hell though. I have to set the cpu strap and multiplier first with ram set to default. then reboot, set my ram xmp profile, then reboot again and set the correct ram speed. if i do both cpu and ram settings together the pc will not boot.

Right now im running at 128.75x35=4.5ghz which boots up fine and the bios actually reads the correct speed. if i bump the multiplier up to x36 then the bios reads the cpu speed at around 3.6ghz. its a very odd issue. I am not sure if the bios is reading the speed wrong of if the correct settings aren't being applied at boot up. what i do know is there is a turbo issue of sorts and the cpu is read correctly in windows/cpu-z. if i recall i tested 125x36 yesterday which worked with default ram settings but setting the xmp profile made the system unstable.
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I couldn't run it at the 125 strap either until the F4y bios update a few days ago (best i could do was 118). This new bios is still buggy as hell though. I have to set the cpu strap and multiplier first with ram set to default. then reboot, set my ram xmp profile, then reboot again and set the correct ram speed. if i do both cpu and ram settings together the pc will not boot.

Right now im running at 128.75x35=4.5ghz which boots up fine and the bios actually reads the correct speed. if i bump the multiplier up to x36 then the bios reads the cpu speed at around 3.6ghz. its a very odd issue. I am not sure if the bios is reading the speed wrong of if the correct settings aren't being applied at boot up. what i do know is there is a turbo issue of sorts and the cpu is read correctly in windows/cpu-z. if i recall i tested 125x36 yesterday which worked with default ram settings but setting the xmp profile made the system unstable.

I never OC my X79 system just want to ask

what this means "run it at the 125 strap" ?
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The base clock for the CPU is 100MHz which is also known as the Bclk or Strap. Running that at 125MHz alters the multipliers on both the CPU and the RAM (possibly other elements too), so a 36 Multi with 125MHz Bclk = 4.5GHz CPU speed, instead of the normal 45 Multi with 100MHz Bclk.



I have a question, currently running the UP4 board and can't get my USB 3.0 ports to run any faster than USB 2.0. Oddly my USB 2.0 stick gets about 40-50MB/s whereas my USB 3.0 sticks get around 11MB/s. Currently running the F3t BIOS and a 4.25GHz OC. Nothing I do driver wise alters the speeds. Even running Win 8.1 didn't alter it so I'm at the point of thinking it's a BIOS issue...

Any help would be appreciated!
    
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Are you talking about the USB ports connected to the via (vli labs) chip at the back? I had some nasty issues with that chip - basically not being recognised. Gigabyte recommended flashing the chip with new firmware. It solved some problems (was recognised, now works at 3.0 speeds, but still has the know S3 problem of older via firmwares - and gigabyte doesn't have a fix for that yet.
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