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post #21 of 46
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No, AMD and ATI have decided to keep ATI as a fabless company, I guess they have their own reasons and justifications but ATI will still contract TSMC to fabricate their silicon.
Most likely because AMD needs all the fabs it can get and then some, they are sorely lacking in production ability compared to intel. Wow, theres a thought, imagine what AMD would be capable of if they had the same resources as intel, scary...
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post #22 of 46
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Most likely because AMD needs all the fabs it can get and then some, they are sorely lacking in production ability compared to intel. Wow, theres a thought, imagine what AMD would be capable of if they had the same resources as intel, scary...
True; think about if ATI had the same resources as Intel... *Drools*

P.S. Nice avatar
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Thanks, lol.
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post #24 of 46
You would think with all the graphics cards Nvidia an ATi sell, fabbing their own would pay for itself in no time, even if you did have to build the fab facility from scratch.
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post #25 of 46
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You would think with all the graphics cards Nvidia an ATi sell, fabbing their own would pay for itself in no time, even if you did have to build the fab facility from scratch.
They could build it in my backyard if they want
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post #26 of 46
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I see a PC Power & Cooling 2KW coming out in the near future.

I guess the minimum wattage for gaming rigs is going to start being around 750-800!
This is very unlikely. The max draw for a normal circuit in a house is 20A. 20 * 110v = 2200 watts. If the PSU is 85% efficent at full load, it would pull 2300 (1.15 * 2000) watts, overloading the circuit and casuing it to fail/flip.
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post #27 of 46
This is probably why AMD chose to keep AMD and ATI separate. This GPU is clearly not going to make AMD look any better on the performance/watt standings.
    
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post #28 of 46
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This is very unlikely. The max draw for a normal circuit in a house is 20A. 20 * 110v = 2200 watts. If the PSU is 85% efficent at full load, it would pull 2300 (1.15 * 2000) watts, overloading the circuit and casuing it to fail/flip.
Yeah I had to do that little bit of math myself a few days ago when I wondered if we'd see an end to this whole power situation.

Also... 12 inches? pfft... that's still a half inch shorter than the Voodoo5 6000


Honestly I'm stopping at the 1950XTX... Unless they can get the power usage of these things down 50% at least... There's a point where it doesn't make sense any more.
    
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post #29 of 46
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Yeah I had to do that little bit of math myself a few days ago when I wondered if we'd see an end to this whole power situation.

Also... 12 inches? pfft... that's still a half inch shorter than the Voodoo5 6000
And we all know what happened to Voodoo, eh?

Oh, and why do cards keep getting longer!? Make them higher you silly PCB designers. The only other card I saw that was higher than normal was the dual 7800GT from ASUS.



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Yeah, however they can't completely ignore that some poor schmuck is going to have to put the thing inside a case.
    
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