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Help w/ Configs On My First System Build AM2 590sSLI

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Hi, I am new to building computers. I have read alot before, and have planned on it, but never got around to it.

Now that I have actualy done it, I want to make sure every dollar I spent is running at optimal speed and stable.

CPU: AMD64 x2 4600+ (65w) (s-AM2) http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103749
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S5 http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813128011
RAM: Corsair TWINX2048-6400C4 (4-4-4-12 advertised) http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145034
HDD: 1 WD Caviar 250GB
GPU: 1 EVGA 7900 GTO http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130065
PSU: 600w Silverstone ST60F

I am currently using the stock AMD Heatsink, so I do not plan to Overclock currently. I am confused at what I can set my memory to, 4-4-4-12 seems high in comparrison to what I have read/seen elsewhere.

Below i will list my bios and the settings, please advise me on what will yield the best performance.

- Mem Timings -
tCL (CAS) - 4 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRCD - 4 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRP - 4 Clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRAS - 12 Clock
CMD per clock - 1 Clock (set manually down from 2 clock)
tRRD- 3 clock (auto)
Async Latency - 5ns (auto)
tRC - 22 Clock (set manually - auto @ 23 clock)
tWR - 6c (auto)
tRWT - 4c (auto)
tWTR - 3c (auto)
tREF - 3.9uS

- Mobo Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) -
CPU Frequency Mhz - Auto
SB_PCIE clock - Auto
NB<->SB Reference Clock - Auto
NB_PCIE - Auto
CPU Clock ratio - Auto (manual settings up to 12x)
Robust Graphics Booster - Turbo
DDR2 Voltage Control - +0.1 overvolt (manual)
NB_PCIE voltage - normal
SB_PCIE voltage - normal
CPU HT-LINK voltage - normal
ht Link Voltage - normal
CPU Voltage control - normal
--Normal CPU VCORE: 1.25v (stated - no other variables to set to)

My main questions are, what are "good" timings for this setup? Would i see a great performance increase from lower timings? the CMD per clock on ram - Is 1T better or 2T - I am told 2T is better for OCing and 1T is faster but does not OC as well?

My buddy had his all tweaked out, but wasn't overclocking, his timings were very low, and he has the same CPU as me on a s939 instead of AM2. Not sure what ram he had, but its dual channel, so it cant be far off from mine.

Any suggestions on programs to use to test my system settings changes against would be great too! I am new to all of this!

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 5
939 has different memory compared to am2 but is lamost the same speed, get a64tweaker to get the correct timmings, then get sp2004 or prime95 to test stability
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I'll do that sometime soon, and come back here for additional help if needed.

Thanks again!
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Heh. Welcome to the new world of AM2.
Well, currently you're running on DDR2 rams, where else your friend would be on DDR rams (socket 939 right). So, DDR2 tends to have higher frequencies in which latencies gotta be loosen abit. However the higher frequencies in DDR2 might just compensate for the looser latencies.

And as frostbite mentioned, Prime95 and sp2004 are good stability testing tools. You can try sisandra software to check out your benchmarking performance, or PCmark.

tCL (CAS) - 4 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRCD - 4 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRP - 4 Clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRAS - 12 Clock
CMD per clock - 1 Clock (set manually down from 2 clock)

Try see if you can decrease these to CL3 latencies with a slight higher voltage bump for them.

tCL (CAS) - 3 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRCD - 3 clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRP - 3 Clock (set manually - auto @ 5 clock)
tRAS - 12 Clock
CMD per clock - 2 Clock (set manually down from 2 clock)


Then prime for 24 hours to check if it's stable. If you're lucky, it might just end up being stable throughout the run. Remember to increase the voltage a little. Helps.

Else, if you can't lower the latencies.. you can always try increasing the frequencies.. Which you might not like too much.
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I am confused as to what CMD per clock is... Is 1t or 2t better? I read that 1T is faster, but not good if you plan to OC. 2T is slower, however more stable for overclocking? is this right? (what is the T anyhow? it shows as 1T or 2T on the packaging, but the bios says 1clock or 2clock, is T an abreviation for clock?)

Again i do not plan to OC just yet, my system should be blazing fast w/out. I will OC when the games i want to play start playing like crap, or i cant play them on full detail ... at which point in time i will buy a second gfx card to go SLI.

Obviously adding to much voltage will damage the modules, but will running the system at those attempted rates (cl3), for 24hrs (stress test) possibly damage anything?

Thank you all for your replies, and helping me along with this.

I know i'm a OC newb... but on my way down the road to addict.
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