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Honestly, I would pull the thermal armor. Thats what I did with my sabertooth P67. unless you're using the assist fan blocks the top pci slot and adds noise it just traps warm air. Your board will typically run cooler without the thermal armor. Its just a gimmick.

No, it's been tested to run cooler:

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/20/asus_sabertooth_z77_lga_1155_motherboard_review/7
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Thermal Armor

In the past ASUS hadn’t included the little fans for use with their thermal armor system. I always thought that was stupid. Well our Sabertooth Z77 did in fact come with two of these tiny cooling fans. Fortunately they were easy to install and not all that noisy despite some upfront concerns that they might be. We wanted to see what kind of improvement if any these fans had on our motherboard temperature and I’ve included some screenshots above. The system was load tested using Prime95 and after an hour I went ahead and disconnected the cooling fans completely. As you can see by the screen shots, the temperature increase was modest.

Now it’s been relatively cool where I live lately so the ambient temperatures in my office environment were lower than they will be in a few weeks or so. Additionally I am using an open air test bench. So the difference if there is one probably wasn’t showcased too well here. Still I’m glad to see that ASUS is now including these fans as they should have done from the start.

Plus I think that personally it makes the board look sick, it's the whole reason I chose it. Makes it look much cleaner.

Sorry misread you said without fans. Regardless the fans add almost no extra noise and keep it cooler, so why not?
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Honestly, I would pull the thermal armor. Thats what I did with my sabertooth P67. unless you're using the assist fan blocks the top pci slot and adds noise it just traps warm air. Your board will typically run cooler without the thermal armor. Its just a gimmick.
I use the fans and it stays cold. The z77 armor is better than the p67. That cheap gimmick is why I bought it over the ROG or evga boards.
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The following rads are 140mm rads that I know of to fit in push pull in the Switch 810:
- XSPC EX420 (perhaps best for the money, no clearance issues at all, 19 split fins per inch)
- Alphacool NeXXos XT45 420 (equivalent to the EX420 overall, slightly betterat low speeds bbut the EX pulls ahead at high speeds, and around 11-12fpi)
- Alphacool NeXXos ST30 420 (better low-speed rad but you lose many of the extra features of the series, 12-13fpi)
- HWLabs Black Ice GT Stealth 420 (slim but extremely high fin density of 30fpi means high speed fans only)
- Magicool Slim 420 (don't know much about it, but dimensions fit; would imagine it is a decent rad but nothing super special)
- Koolance 3x140 Slim (available in 30, 20, and 11fpi variants I believe, should be a great rad if you can perfectly match fans to fpi)
Basically, once you get any thicker than the 45mm of the XT45, you will increase the amount of work necessary to fit the rad exponentiall . I believetthat the XSPC EX420 is the best bang for your buck, and at 36.5mm thick its not the thinnest nor the thickest, but the unique split fins combined with 19 linear fins per inch not only double the number of rows of fins, they also serve to provide the heat dissipation capabilities of a full size rad with a moderately highfin ccount in a far more compact space. Also, the radiator performs well at almost any fan speed, butaabove 1200rpm it really comes into its own, and continues to scale almost linearly up to, and likely beyond, 3000rpm.
The Alphacool NeXXos rads are absolutely awesome as well, and the small premium over the EX for the XT45 gives betterlow sspeedpperformance and a significant increase in the amount of copper used in the construction of the radiator. It scales almost linearly with fan speed as wel , though likely drops off in gains before the EX will simply due to having 1/3 the number of fins.
Either way, you get one of the absolute best radiators available.
I was thinking about a black ice sr1 its 55.89 mm and i seen it in a swicth with the a maxuimus if it fits that it will fit a sbertooth ya it 150 but i think its the win.
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No, it's been tested to run cooler:
http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/20/asus_sabertooth_z77_lga_1155_motherboard_review/7
Plus I think that personally it makes the board look sick, it's the whole reason I chose it. Makes it look much cleaner.
Sorry misread you said without fans. Regardless the fans add almost no extra noise and keep it cooler, so why not?
I said the smae my fans dont make noise nor do they block a pci slot he is thnking of the p67 tooth diffrent boards though completely. Those issues have been fixed in the z77.
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You're telling me that you can fit an assist fan and still use the top pci-e 1x slot? Yeah, ok.

You can do whatever you want. I'm just throwing pulling off the "thermal armor" as a perfectly viable option. I never used it on my P67 sabertooth.

It really doesn't perform much of a practical function. Its more for looks than anything else.
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The z77 armor is better than the p67.

Its just a plastic sheath over the motherboard's pcb.

The one area where I would the the thermal armor being really handy with an assist fan is on a test bench due to having little or no airflow over the motherboard. In a case I doubt that it makes much of a difference.
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Just so you know, ANY thick 420 rad is going to require a lot more modding (cutting) than a slimmer one, ideally 40mm or slimmer but the XT45 will work. I wouldn't suggest getting a thick rad unless you have the necessary tools (drill and Dremel minimum) and a lot of patience.

I simply don't believe that the 5 percent gain from a 60mm thick rad is worth it, and in factI wwould bet dollars to donuts that an EX420 or XT45 with Push Pullfans wwill outperform a 60mm rad with just one set of fans.

I will admit that thethick rads look beastly , but they are a hassle. Plus, it is extremely easy to stick a 60mm thick rad in the bottomeven in ppush pull.
   
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You could take it a step further and go with an 80mm or whatever alphacool monsta 240 or 280 down there in push pull with no problems. I've got the UT60 240 in the bottom of my case with fans in push pull and still have like 2 inches of clearance before the hard drive bay.
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You're telling me that you can fit an assist fan and still use the top pci-e 1x slot? Yeah, ok.
You can do whatever you want. I'm just throwing pulling off the "thermal armor" as a perfectly viable option. I never used it on my P67 sabertooth.
It really doesn't perform much of a practical function. Its more for looks than anything else.
Its just a plastic sheath over the motherboard's pcb.
The one area where I would the the thermal armor being really handy with an assist fan is on a test bench due to having little or no airflow over the motherboard. In a case I doubt that it makes much of a difference.
I thought you were speaking of pci 16 slot my bad. I dont care about the pci 1 slot and I like the armor but thank you for your input.
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Just so you know, ANY thick 420 rad is going to require a lot more modding (cutting) than a slimmer one, ideally 40mm or slimmer but the XT45 will work. I wouldn't suggest getting a thick rad unless you have the necessary tools (drill and Dremel minimum) and a lot of patience.
I simply don't believe that the 5 percent gain from a 60mm thick rad is worth it, and in factI wwould bet dollars to donuts that an EX420 or XT45 with Push Pullfans wwill outperform a 60mm rad with just one set of fans.
I will admit that thethick rads look beastly , but they are a hassle. Plus, it is extremely easy to stick a 60mm thick rad in the bottomeven in ppush pull.
I have the tools I mod all the time im not shy about sawing some room out i have done much more than that to other cases.
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You could take it a step further and go with an 80mm or whatever alphacool monsta 240 or 280 down there in push pull with no problems. I've got the UT60 240 in the bottom of my case with fans in push pull and still have like 2 inches of clearance before the hard drive bay.
I plan on having a thick on the bottom as well as the top
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CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
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i7 6960x Rampage V Extreme Black Edition Undecided x3 Undecided 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Undecided Undecided EK Sumprecey EVO EK Sumprecey EVO 
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Undecided Undecided Windows 10 Undecided 
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Razer Black Widow Wltimate  EVGA G2 1600w Case Labs STH10 Razer Deathadder (2013)(Modded with Blue LEDs) 
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Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
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