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So I look at it this way, lets say they issue me a $250,000 fine. That would honestly probably ruin my entire life, what I'm getting out of this is that media that was downloaded/shared was worth more than my life. Is that a fair way of looking at it?
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Is streaming a file considered the same as downloading?
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Is streaming a file considered the same as downloading?

Technically, no. In their eyes, yes.
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Edited by Rotsae - 4/1/14 at 11:46pm
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This is absolutely insane. Copy a 99 cent song for free? 2 years in prison + $25,00 fine. Seems legit. rolleyes.gif

Just another example of the reigning plutocracy that exists among capitalist nations. Good to know we have evolved into beings who value shiny things above all else.
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I am not going to discuss if Communism is good or bad, but how does a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order have anything to do with this.

Agree, communists get out of here , this is not right place for your flamed ideologies, neither nazis supporters.kungfu.gif
post #28 of 84
"Bankers" would call Robin Hood a "pirate", we knew that.

What % of the population with internet access hasn't downloaded a single illegal file?
Forget recording radio for your cassette mix...what if that happened over an unlicensed station?

What about downloading illegal files through torrents where in some cases you don't know what's coming down 100%?
What about youtube? Many many videos out there have unlicensed copies of music, and streaming is downloading ANY day/however you put it...

What about downloading free programs that infringe patents of other, commercially available programs?

What about - say - cell phones that infringe such patents and you keep buying despite it being publicised?

Too many logistic issues. I say we should kill digital file pirates and recipients on the spot.
"This illigal download will self destruct along with your building block in 10, 9..."
And the US president and all those "communists"...me included.
Better dead before hypocrites than alive between them.
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I can tell you right now if it does come to the UK me and many others I know will be out in the streets of Edinburgh or maybe even London.

Hell, I'd fly over and join you. Hopefully the Japanese people do the same.

However, there is a slight silver lining to this. One thing that always bugged me was that there was no definite law anywhere on how to handle illegal downloading. Which not only lays down punishment for offenders, but also defines their rights. A person who violates a copyright should be charged with a crime, but under no circumstance should the publisher have any right to come in and sue them for who knows how much money.

I am also hoping that it will lead to new or upgraded laws on copyrights. I don't think the old system invented for books really applies to all things digital. Especially in regards to software, but really all media as well. I'd like to see a system get put in place that after ten years any data becomes public domain. If they think they can still make some money off of it in ten years the leading stake holder could file an extension (like Elvis music is still selling decently and people are still buying CS:S for example, however, there are all sorts of things that the authors should just be happy people still have an interest in it)

Now, we just need to get the fines down. However, I am hoping the max penalties will only be applied to really gross offenders. Some one caught downloading a hundred songs or something would hopefully just get some probation for the first offense and a small fine for the second...nailed them harder if they get hit with a third.
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There is a easy solution to this. Don't Pirate. Thank God i dont really listen to music to bother to download any for free.
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