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post #51 of 84
About damn time! My brother's company has spent MILLIONS of dollars in the United States alone trying to track and find users illegally distributing and downloading files. His boss is literally insane at this point because their parent company, RIAA, has been breathing down their neck and my brother's whole division was being threatened with the possibility of being let go. One small step for mankind, one huge step for my brother to get a raise. biggrin.gif
post #52 of 84
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Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post

People get slammed with the large settlements because of UPLOADING the files, not downloading. Then you're distributing the pirated software, and the fines make more sense.
I don't see how you can justify a fine like this for essentially shoplifting.
Yeah, the thing is, how do you determine who was the original uploader?

In peer to peer networks, technically everyone is an uploader.
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You know what I use to convince people to buy music? I get them to break out their phone or MP3 player and pick a song I have gotten legit, they play it and listen, then they listen to mine. Almost immediately I hear "wow, sounds clearer". I dunno where most "pirates" download their music but its most often terrible quality with lots of noise and static in the background, and its extremely obvious when listening to headphones. I can't listen to music people give me in my headphones most of the time because they don't pay for it.

Sure, some of the pirated stuff is decent, most of it is low quality rips and the like. The music industry could do well in advertising that fact alone. I love clear crisp sounding audio. And I'm willing to pay for it for sure. So stuff like Jimi, The Beatles, Doors, Yarbirds, etc has to sound the best to me, especially since the recording tech back then wasn't as great, so the sound quality to me is ever more important.

99.9999999999% of all piracy is not a lost sale as there would not have been a sale in the first place. All it does is get the artist known and listened to, thus making them more popular, having a better chance at publicity and therefore selling more CD's and merch. If Piracy could be stopped tomorrow, the MPAA and RIAA would freak out... They want to make as much money as possible, but they see the potential there is as well, they just want to make sure pirating is not easy for the majority of users IMO. They may be greedy, but they are not stupid.
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They used to hang pirates. I would say these scurvy Japanese dogs are getting off easy. biggrin.gif
Edited by Solarin - 10/2/12 at 10:54am
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You know what I use to convince people to buy music? I get them to break out their phone or MP3 player and pick a song I have gotten legit, they play it and listen, then they listen to mine. Almost immediately I hear "wow, sounds clearer". I dunno where most "pirates" download their music but its most often terrible quality with lots of noise and static in the background, and its extremely obvious when listening to headphones. I can't listen to music people give me in my headphones most of the time because they don't pay for it.
Sure, some of the pirated stuff is decent, most of it is low quality rips and the like. The music industry could do well in advertising that fact alone. I love clear crisp sounding audio. And I'm willing to pay for it for sure. So stuff like Jimi, The Beatles, Doors, Yarbirds, etc has to sound the best to me, especially since the recording tech back then wasn't as great, so the sound quality to me is ever more important.
99.9999999999% of all piracy is not a lost sale as there would not have been a sale in the first place. All it does is get the artist known and listened to, thus making them more popular, having a better chance at publicity and therefore selling more CD's and merch. If Piracy could be stopped tomorrow, the MPAA and RIAA would freak out... They want to make as much money as possible, but they see the potential there is as well, they just want to make sure pirating is not easy for the majority of users IMO. They may be greedy, but they are not stupid.
It's possible to pirate FLAC encoded music, amongst other lossless encoding formats.
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Communism!
In reality it is the opposite. It is the essence of greed which is the capitalism. Pay for everything, nothing is free. inb4, canned air and sunshine.
post #57 of 84
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It has been proven over and over that illegal downloads spur sales. In essence it is free advertising. Many artists today would not be known if it was not for illegal downloads. Many programs would not be purchased if not downloaded and evaluated before purchase. The companies say they lose money, but this is not true. Every year media sales go up, for everyone. To say that users should serve jail time for 1 downloaded file. People will not stand for this, nor will the hacker group anonymous. Heads will roll, and legal systems will fall--In the long run of course. smile.gif

^

I wouldn't have 90% of the CDs I have if it wasn't for "illegal" downloads. I don't have a metal radio station in Brazil, there's no other way of knowing new bands and their albuns.
And I'm pretty sure that Paradise Lost (and KSE, LOG...) would never make concerts where I live if wasn't for piracy.
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Not surprised at this law, Japan has a law where it's illegal to be fat.
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Not surprised at this law, Japan has a law where it's illegal to be fat.

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post #60 of 84
the weird part is that hollywood thinks its numbers are down because of piracy. they don't want their shareholders to know that the fact is no one wants to go see their crappy movies. honestly, when was the last time you couldn't wait for "random" movie to release? and the movie before that? exactly.

10 to 1 download rates? your average person doesn't even know how to download pirated stuff. i've been a tech person since the early 90s and when someone asks me to repair a pc for them, one of the first conversations i have with them is about what they download. engineers, doctors, really smart people, very average people, don't know jack about it.

they need to step into reality and figure out that their products just don't sell as well as they used to.
Edited by Salvador - 10/2/12 at 6:26pm
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