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There's a lot wrong with that statement but I'll just let you be. And when did windows drop under 100USD to buy? If it is then that shows just how far MS has dropped.

How does it show anything being "dropped"? It's a better value for consumers and a sign of the times. As far as pricing, it is $FREE (built into the cost) with a new PC, $30ish as part of a Family Pack 3-pack, and ~$80-90 as a standalone license, pretty regularly these days. What is "wrong with that statement" about how Linux isn't a good value proposition for virtually anyone, by the way?
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Steam, iTunes, and solid driver support and I'll be all over Linux.
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Hmm, I totally forgot about driver support...hmmm I guess we'll see.

Edit: is there some 666 post easteregg on OCN? I've been stuck on 666 for like 10 posts now...
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Hmm, I totally forgot about driver support...hmmm I guess we'll see.
Edit: is there some 666 post easteregg on OCN? I've been stuck on 666 for like 10 posts now...

Seems to have fixed itself, unless it is only an issue on your side.

On Topic... I'd like to see a lot of games supported for Steam Linux in the future, then maybe we could use Linux as cheaper gaming rigs for siblings.
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I have to remind you that you aren't getting "windows for free". Linux is not like windows so it will take some actual effort (or not depending on the person/distro). My one worry about people going "Oh, so I won't have to pay for windows to game anymore?" is that they'll have expectations of "free windows" in use and will be disappointed.
The big thing is getting drivers (FOSS or not) and support as lately the news has been pretty much that Intel and AMD said they weren't going to support Linux (Which makes no sense) and AMD's drivers have been hit or miss lately.

On the Valve Linux blog I could have sworn that they have been working with Intel and giving them some pointers/tips on some stuff that needs changed or improved.
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On the Valve Linux blog I could have sworn that they have been working with Intel and giving them some pointers/tips on some stuff that needs changed or improved.
They've worked with Intel, nVidia and AMD at least.
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will do! going to wait until graphic drivers are smoothened out with ubuntu first. this will determine which gpu i get thumb.gif
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There's a lot wrong with that statement but I'll just let you be. And when did windows drop under 100USD to buy? If it is then that shows just how far MS has dropped.

THIS. Not talking about an upgrade kit either. Talking about the whole shabang, retail or OEM. i'll be damned if I can even find a copy of win7 retail for under 100.
Edited by hollowtek - 10/2/12 at 2:43am
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I'm almost frothing at the mouth to see/try a linux native steam on Lubuntu (don't care for unity or the other bloat).
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Wow, So much to go over but I'll try for 6:30 in the morning.

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Oh.. so why is this a big deal?
I know, progression and all but the hype seems to be large for a) a 1000 beta and b) only a few games at best
Not trying to be a downer, i just dont get it

No Alaska you're right on it. While Steam might be big in the gaming industry. Unless they release Half Life 3 exclusively to linux this isn't that big of a deal or shockwave in the gaming world. In the Linux world getting a 3 year old game (L4D2) ported over is huge. IMHO the other 3 games are crap and won't matter that much. Maybe DOTA2 but we'll see.
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It's not so much for what it is right now, but what it's going to be.
Valve has quite a bit of influence and for the first time in a long time Linux is taken seriously for gaming at a wider scale.
Polling here on OCN shows that a overwhelming number of people stick to Windows because of the lack of games on other platforms.
People are excited that things are happening (more publicly soon).

No, Only Linux fans take Linux seriously for gaming. The rest of us who gave various distros of Linux a shot do not take it seriously as a gaming platform. While the lack of games is keeping me away from Linux Terrible hardware and driver support along with OPENOFFICE being a really really really really really crappy substitute for Microsoft Office (and trust me I cringe saying that as I resisted MS Office forever) is also big for me. Again, I am a gamer, HOWEVER, I have to do lots of productivity work and its vital that a) Everything work as it should without too much hassle and b) that there be software available for me to do that work in a timely and efficient manner. Open Office just is not a good substitute.
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It will be interesting to see how accurate that is though. I don't mean to sound elitist or anything, but I kind of suspect that a lot of people who say they only use windows because linux has few games haven't actually used linux a significant amount. Hopefully though people will actually make the switch smile.gif

And those of us that have used Linux a significant amount? I mean GRANTED the last time I touched a Linux distro was 2 years ago. But I was heavily into Red Hat and Fedora. While Ubuntu showed potential I was spending 5 to 6 hours a day just trying to surf through the linux forums to get answers to the most basic of questions. I never did get my sound, microphone, or webcam working. And despite being listed as GOLD RATED on wine (which I later believe doesn't mean much of a darned thing) I could never get any game that I really cared to play to work.

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Games of course is just one of the many potential issues people have with migrating to Linux.
Driver support isn't all there and there are certain non-gaming programs that haven't been ported or don't have an equivalent.

Bingo, and as much as Games are important. There is a group of people that spend a hell of a lot more money on computing hardware and software than gamers. That's businesses. The irony here is that Linux is great for servers. But for workstations its still horrible. I've yet to ever walk into a business or government agency (with the exception of China) and see them running Linux on their workstation machines.
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Ok I am ready to learn Linux. Where do I begin?

Unless things have changed drastically expect to spend 8 to 10 hour days for a year to become SEMI proficient in its operation.

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Steam, iTunes, and solid driver support and I'll be all over Linux.

Among other things I'll need you can leave out the iTunes but yes Solid Driver Support would go a long way.




I don't mean to sound like I am bashing here. I am just being REAL with you guys. As someone who was all about linux as early as 1997 when I started using my first distro (openSUSE if you care) I could tell the battle would be uphill. For one, it took a LOT of time to learn how to make it work. Two, a lot of stuff that was 2 clicks to work in Windows and literally 1 command line in DOS Linux took much much more to make it work even in later distro's like RedHat, Fedora and Ubuntu. Sometimes it didn't work at all because that operation simply isn't supported unless you go into the prompt and code it into the Operating System yourself. It's just not feasible to expect a user to do those things. To get wide spread acceptance 99% of crap needs to work without any hassle. Now. Once Ultimate Linux and all this new Ubuntu stuff came out I was already so busy doing other things I didn't really have time to screw around with it anymore and even when I was messing with RedHat and Fedora I didnt have more than a few hours a week to mess with it. It could have changed! But I seriously doubt it. This gives me some glimmer of hope (The Steam announcement) But I am not waiting with baited breath for some revolution where everyone switches to Linux and all the world is right.
 
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