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10/4/12 at 9:43pm
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I said "live CD" meaning booting the live CD without installing - Primarily to see what he likes without altering his system .

Still more time consuming and wasteful than it needs to be.
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10/5/12 at 11:58am
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I just got reminded why I haven't run X-Windows in so long....multi-hour ports build and then a string of stop error1. Not sure why it would error out like that. finished the BSD install, rebooted, did portsnap fetch, portsnap extract, then portsnap update, just to make sure. Then I ran make install from /usr/ports/x11/xorg. The minimal install gave similar errors after a few seconds. I'm not too sure where to go from here.
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10/20/12 at 11:46am
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Ok I haven't updated a lot lately largely because work sent me out of town for a week and been pretty busy outside the house. I'm still struggling to get a GUI working on FreeBSD. What is easiest way to get X to work? I tried a ports install of Xorg minimal and then installed the items it complained were missing. it then complained about fbdev being an invalid module after I installed it from ports. I tried a clean install then when it asked if I wanted to drop to a terminal I ran sysinstall from the command to install X. It will load the minimalistic X WM with a few windows of X term and a copy of X Clock. My mouse and keyboard stop responding. and I'm stuck unless I ctrl+alt+del or switch terminals and use top to get the pid for X and kill it. When I scroll through the log it also mentions hbdev is missing. I installed it and still says it's missing. I'm getting frustrated and maybe a bit impatient. It sounds like my options are try and find the config files and see if anything is off there and a lot of googling or try switching to a more user friendly OS/Distro of which I'm leaning to LMDE. I haven't run X in somewhere between 7-9 years and my last several *nix installs had been on a rather old and basic system that was run headless once I had SSH up and running and I'd log in remotely. Any suggestions or guidance would be greatly appreciated:)
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10/20/12 at 11:57am
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Ok I haven't updated a lot lately largely because work sent me out of town for a week and been pretty busy outside the house. I'm still struggling to get a GUI working on FreeBSD. What is easiest way to get X to work? I tried a ports install of Xorg minimal and then installed the items it complained were missing. it then complained about fbdev being an invalid module after I installed it from ports. I tried a clean install then when it asked if I wanted to drop to a terminal I ran sysinstall from the command to install X. It will load the minimalistic X WM with a few windows of X term and a copy of X Clock. My mouse and keyboard stop responding. and I'm stuck unless I ctrl+alt+del or switch terminals and use top to get the pid for X and kill it. When I scroll through the log it also mentions hbdev is missing. I installed it and still says it's missing. I'm getting frustrated and maybe a bit impatient. It sounds like my options are try and find the config files and see if anything is off there and a lot of googling or try switching to a more user friendly OS/Distro of which I'm leaning to LMDE. I haven't run X in somewhere between 7-9 years and my last several *nix installs had been on a rather old and basic system that was run headless once I had SSH up and running and I'd log in remotely. Any suggestions or guidance would be greatly appreciated:)

Make sure hal and dbus are running as daemons. Start the wm using xinit
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10/20/12 at 10:09pm
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Ok did a clean install then installed the packages for xorg and fluxbox, edited rc.conf to load dbus and hal, and then added fluxbox to .xinitrc
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echo "/usr/local/bin/startfluxbox >> .xinitrc
so far I am in fact working. I got firefox running form a pkg as well. I'm not sure why it failed to install from the normal make in ports. One step at a time. BTW I am writing the from my BSD install. I'll have to play with it a bit as I need to find a theme more suited to my tastes. It's not a bad start and now that I have a working GUI it will be easier to research ways to improve on it without switching back to windows.

Thanks for the tip about dbus and hald irl1357

:edited to add a step I missed in the overview but included in the step by step code section.
Edited by zflamewing - 10/20/12 at 10:16pm
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10/21/12 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by zflamewing View Post

Ok did a clean install then installed the packages for xorg and fluxbox, edited rc.conf to load dbus and hal, and then added fluxbox to .xinitrc
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pkg_add -r xorg
pkg_add -r fluxbox
vi /etc/rc.conf
hald_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"
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echo "/usr/local/bin/startfluxbox >> .xinitrc
so far I am in fact working. I got firefox running form a pkg as well. I'm not sure why it failed to install from the normal make in ports. One step at a time. BTW I am writing the from my BSD install. I'll have to play with it a bit as I need to find a theme more suited to my tastes. It's not a bad start and now that I have a working GUI it will be easier to research ways to improve on it without switching back to windows.

Thanks for the tip about dbus and hald irl1357

:edited to add a step I missed in the overview but included in the step by step code section.

is the ports tree up to date?
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10/21/12 at 6:15am
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is the ports tree up to date?
I didn't mention it in the post but the first thing I did was fetch with portsnap then extract and update.
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10/28/12 at 7:17am
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So I made the jump to LMDE a day or so ago. I went with the Mate/Cinnamon 64bit version. I'm using the default install. I've gotten compiz running but I think it's running on top of/with the default DE. I'm enjoying the fact that out of the box it's doing nearly all I need. Not having to use su - to get to root to handle admin tasks is taking some getting used to but all the same saves a lot of jumping back and forth between su - and exit to do something and test it etc. I never expected a standard desktop setup to be this easy. As I stated early in this thread my knowledge of *nix is pretty out of date so things like LMDE are a very pleasant experience.

One thing I did find odd though was on the install it didn't have an option to populate a default portioning scheme. I ended up reading a few guides on line and came up with the following
boot 500MiB
swap 2.44GiB
/ 58.59 GiB
/home 171.36 GiB

I think for doing various server type projects I'm inclined to stick with something like FreeBSD and keep it command line only but so far Mint is really hitting the spot as a desktop/MS Win X replacement. Now to sink my teeth in and learn what's really going on behind the pretty and easy to use interface and learn more about what's really happening more than just a user trying to get by.
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So I made the jump to LMDE a day or so ago. I went with the Mate/Cinnamon 64bit version. I'm using the default install. I've gotten compiz running but I think it's running on top of/with the default DE. I'm enjoying the fact that out of the box it's doing nearly all I need. Not having to use su - to get to root to handle admin tasks is taking some getting used to but all the same saves a lot of jumping back and forth between su - and exit to do something and test it etc. I never expected a standard desktop setup to be this easy. As I stated early in this thread my knowledge of *nix is pretty out of date so things like LMDE are a very pleasant experience.

One thing I did find odd though was on the install it didn't have an option to populate a default portioning scheme. I ended up reading a few guides on line and came up with the following
boot 500MiB
swap 2.44GiB
/ 58.59 GiB
/home 171.36 GiB

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that is MASSIVE overkill on /. mines 10gb and its using just 3.5gb now. also compiz wouldn't be running 'on top of'. what you've most likley dont is is replaced the core window manager (mutter is it?)
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10/28/12 at 8:34am
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that is MASSIVE overkill on /. mines 10gb and its using just 3.5gb now. also compiz wouldn't be running 'on top of'. what you've most likley dont is is replaced the core window manager (mutter is it?)

I guessed at the value I needed for root. With compiz the only way I can get it to load is
Code:
zflamewing@hel ~/Desktop $ compiz --replace
it still has the default look and feel with compiz effects in addition. My current goal is to keep what I have now and see if I can get an entry on the session options of the log in screen to start with just a WM and try to craft my own environment from there. There's so much to learn....I might not be actively gaming for awhile which means less time in MS land lol
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