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Redmist considers never buying another Ubisoft title ever again.

doh.gif Please read the post above yours.
 
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There's no fixing Ubisoft unless you eject the businessman in charge and replace him with a honest-to-goodness video game designer/programmer/artist whatever.

I say don't buy any of their stuff again, anyone that works with Ubisoft knows full well that the integrity and originality of their franchise is at risk and is probably going to be watered and dumbed down and discarded as soon as it stops turning a profit.
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There's no fixing Ubisoft unless you eject the businessman in charge and replace him with a honest-to-goodness video game designer/programmer/artist whatever.
I say don't buy any of their stuff again, anyone that works with Ubisoft knows full well that the integrity and originality of their franchise is at risk and is probably going to be watered and dumbed down and discarded as soon as it stops turning a profit.

*sigh*

You're saying they're going to waterdown and dump their own company? Ubisoft isn't just a game dev, they're their own publisher too... they can't just dump themselves, you make no sense.

Also, please watch this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6187-Why-Boycotts-Fail-Where-Whining-Tantrums-Win
 
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Are they never happy? They constantly want more and more and more money. No doubt people pirate things with crap like this happening all the time.

It annoys me too.

I can't remember the last time I paid £40 for a game, and now console games are hitting £50 at release. Now they want to take more money from me?

Thankfully I just wait until the sales to grab my games to avoid this extortionate business model.

The thing that annoys me is that the PS3 and Xbox 360 only retail for about £200 - £250 these days. They want us to spend 25% of what we spent on a console to play the game? Then spend even more money to get extra features? It's atrocious.

I only mention consoles because thankfully, PC games tend to retail for £30 at release (barring a few greedy exceptions) rather than £50 on consoles.

Personally I think £30 should be the absolute limit for any game at release.
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DRM down , this thing comes... well they must forgone something to get sometime...it the basic of economic. I'll think it fishy for them to stop DRM. So this at last their motive. What ? They making online games with freetoplay and paytowin style business?
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DRM down , this thing comes... well they must forgone something to get sometime...it the basic of economic. I'll think it fishy for them to stop DRM. So this at last their motive. What ? They making online games with freetoplay and paytowin style business?

Very very much doubt it'll be pay to win. Nearly every company has realized by now that nobody likes pay to win.
 
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*sigh*You're saying they're going to waterdown and dump their own company? Ubisoft isn't just a game dev, they're their own publisher too... they can't just dump themselves, you make no sense.
Also, please watch this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6187-Why-Boycotts-Fail-Where-Whining-Tantrums-Win

You're right in that Ubi develop some of their own games, and the problem with that is that they inherently focus on making money and not making art. I assumed that by hurting the devs you meant other companies contracted by Ubisoft to develop games which are then published by Ubisoft themselves. I countered this by saying that these developers know full well what kind of game Ubisoft want made (ie money making hits, not original or ground-breaking games) and therefore I don't care if they are hurt in the process. They chose to hurt themselves by partnering with a fiend of a company like Ubisoft.

Ubisoft are not in the business of making great games that push boundaries anymore. They aren't 'By gamers, for gamers' like some other companies are, they are 'By businessmen, for suckers' and their main directive is to make money and I'm sure you can guess the best method to do that: console-focus and water down games as to not scare away any potential customers. So yes, I'm saying they will water down their games and dump them when they prove not to be profitable anymore, just as any firm would do when a segment of their business isn't performing.

I have not seen the video, but I will watch it now. It's a shame that website has about four million scripts running in the background, people need to learn to just use Youtube.

Alright, the main point he seems to make is that boycotts don't work because gamers can't unite and that developers suffer because companies like Activision can them. Firstly, I already stated before that I have no love for companies that decide to work with terrible, terrible companies so I don't see how that is relevant. I'd much rather see them go indie (yes, it does work) than go work for Activision or EA or whoever. Secondly, I never recommended a boycott. I was just advising someone not to buy bad games, and, if he did like one particular game, it just means less money for said bad company. Nobody can do anything about the rest of the horde buying into their crappy games, but at the very least said bad company is down ~50 dollars or whatever the game retails for.

Some of this is just untrue. Developers taking what they can get? Inexile didn't settle for an FPS, Fallout-3 style abomination for Wasteland II, BF waited until he could make the game he wanted and would rather delay a good game than sell out and make a terrible one. And I agree, I have no warm feelings for people who would give up and turn to someone like Activision for monetary support when making the game of their dreams because it won't and will not ever come out as the game of their dreams. I have played indie games, self-funded games, even demos that were hundreds of times better than the filth that Activision constantly churns out and I would much rather keep it that way than spending MY money on a game that suffers from stupid flaws.

I'd much rather pirate the game and mail money to the developers themselves. Thankfully, crowdfunding has proven to be an outlet for people that don't want to have the life sucked out of their games, so all this is a bit of a moot point.
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It annoys me too.
I can't remember the last time I paid £40 for a game, and now console games are hitting £50 at release. Now they want to take more money from me?
Thankfully I just wait until the sales to grab my games to avoid this extortionate business model.
The thing that annoys me is that the PS3 and Xbox 360 only retail for about £200 - £250 these days. They want us to spend 25% of what we spent on a console to play the game? Then spend even more money to get extra features? It's atrocious.
I only mention consoles because thankfully, PC games tend to retail for £30 at release (barring a few greedy exceptions) rather than £50 on consoles.
Personally I think £30 should be the absolute limit for any game at release.

I absolutely agree thumb.gif £30 is the upper limit of what I will spend on games and any game that has these MT's or real money consumables I will never bother with. Diablo 3 was really interesting for a while, but then BAM, RMAH news hit and I was instantly put off.
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Cleaned. Please keep the discussion on topic, ensure you're abiding the TOS, and refrain from personal attacks, please thumb.gif

 

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Considering most companies already do this i am not sure why everyones mad at ubisoft specifically.
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