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15mph +45mph = instadeath
45mph-15mph = most likely hospitalized or dead
No insurance.
I'd rather die (seriously, not joking).
I'm glad I haven't gotten a fine yet, maybe it's not illegal. What's so wrong with riding a bike on a sidewalk? I feel a lot more safer. You wouldn't be surprised how many times I've seen people go into a turning lane and almost hit a bicyclist.

I fell off a bike at 35mph (spedometer indicated) going down a hill and all it done was crack a small bone in my wrist. It's not all doom and gloom!

Well, on the road, cars know you're to be there, when you're on the sidewalk, pedestrians don't. They're travelling at 2-3mph and you're travelling at 15. That's a huge difference. They also change direction much quicker than cars, and unlike cars, they're not acting in a set way. Predictable movement patterns etc...

As I said in my previous post, it's all about the confidence you put into your riding, If you ride close in to the kerb and basically act like you're there to get out of peoples way, they will take advantage of that. Ride your bicycle in the same position you'd ride a motorbike and people will give you a bit more respect and room as a fellow road user thumb.gif.
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post #32 of 78
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I fell off a bike at 35mph (spedometer indicated) going down a hill and all it done was crack a small bone in my wrist. It's not all doom and gloom!
Well, on the road, cars know you're to be there, when you're on the sidewalk, pedestrians don't. They're travelling at 2-3mph and you're travelling at 15. That's a huge difference. They also chage direction much quicker than cars, and unlike cars, they're not acting in a set way.
As I said in my previous post, it's all about the confidence you put into your riding, If you ride close in to the kerb and basically act like you're there to get out of peoples way, they will take advantage of that. Ride your bicycle in the same position you'd ride a motorbike and people will give you a bit more respect and room as a fellow road user thumb.gif.
I guess but with all due respect, maybe it's different in the UK. Try coming to Orlando. You wouldn't want to ride your bike on these streets. Hell, you probably wouldn't want to drive your car either (and let's not even discuss Miami, that's not allowed here).

LOL my own personal pessimist view. Hey, if I get hit and don't die, then yay. Otherwise, *queue funeral march*.

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I recall some statistics (whether they are to be trusted, who knows) that Florida and it's many cities (including Orlando, Miami, Jacksonville, etc) are one of the top with pedestrians being hit by motor vehicles. biggrin.gif
post #33 of 78
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Personal quip: WHY are there not sidewalks everywhere? I hate it when I am forced to bike in a bike lane or the grass. Absolutely hate it. I've still gotten hit a couple times (ie slow collisions, nothing major just shrug it off) but damn.

In most areas sidewalks are corporate or zone building requirements. This means that a building or complex is required by law to have a sidewalk in front of their property by a road, it does Not mean that the sidewalk must connect to another sidewalk or that it should actually lead anywhere. City planning at its best! This is more so for suburban than city urban, but that is why so many sidewalks just end, even when the next sidewalk is 10 feet away.

We live in a time where the car still dominates city planning.

These bike lights are a pretty cool idea. Makes me want to try and create a DIY project smile.gif
Although I always figured the biggest issue was not the light but overall visibility of the bike and human. So many times have I seen an illuminated thing moving through the air and I am trying to ID it I don't even realize it is a bike, or how far away it is because it is fairly alien at night when you are not used to seeing floating spinning lights and reflectors.

Seeing how far away a spinning, floating red reflector is can be rather challenging.
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I guess but with all due respect, maybe it's different in the UK. Try coming to Orlando. You wouldn't want to ride your bike on these streets. Hell, you probably wouldn't want to drive your car either (and let's not even discuss Miami, that's not allowed here).
LOL my own personal pessimist view. Hey, if I get hit and don't die, then yay. Otherwise, *queue funeral march*.
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I recall some statistics (whether they are to be trusted, who knows) that Florida and it's many cities (including Orlando, Miami, Jacksonville, etc) are one of the top with pedestrians being hit by motor vehicles. biggrin.gif

I don't know why you think the roads there are so bad? A road is a road, they all have a set way in law in which they are handled, why would one road be worse than another? I've done thousands of miles as a bike delivery rider and I often go on rides through the countryside which are one lane each way, 60mph limit with blind bends every quarter mile. Why would a bike rider be scared of a bit of tarmac with some white lines on it? tongue.gif
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I don't know why you think the roads there are so bad? A road is a road, they all have a set way in law in which they are handled, why would one road be worse than another? I've done thousands of miles as a bike delivery rider and I often go on rides through the countryside which are one lane each way, 60mph limit with blind bends every quarter mile. Why would a bike rider be scared of a bit of tarmac with some white lines on it? tongue.gif
I'm sorry, I'm talking about the people driving on these roads, not the roads themselves. I have no problem riding on a less frequented road, but you won't catch me riding on SR434 (any Orlando peeps here?). smile.gif Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've been hit enough times riding on a sidewalk that I'd rather not ride street lol.

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Also, I ride with the assumption that any car on the street cannot see me. So it's not like I ride unsafe.
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Why would a bike rider be scared of a bit of tarmac with some white lines on it? tongue.gif

I'm not, I'm scared of the idiots using it.

You can ride properly, follow the rules, do everything right and still you are at the mercy of somone hitting you. Again, not all drivers are idiots and not all cyclists or pedestrians are saints. However in a bike - car or even bike - pedestrian collision the cyclist is almost always going to come off worse.
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I get annoyed at cyclist who seem to think that their bikes give them free access to the front of the line at red lights, and I purposely move to block them when I see them trying to illegally pass. Hope one hits me one day so I can get some insurance money out of them, and it'd serve 'em right.

As it is, our town built a dedicated bike sidepath as well as the sidewalk to keep bikers out of the road, so yeah, I chalk down the biker woes to bad city planning.
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I'm sorry, I'm talking about the people driving on these roads, not the roads themselves. I have no problem riding on a less frequented road, but you won't catch me riding on SR434 (any Orlando peeps here?). smile.gif Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've been hit enough times riding on a sidewalk that I'd rather not ride street lol.


Riding a bike in LA... lol. Riding a bike in NYC... that's some crazy carp there. Taxi runs you over, and then bam the rest of the 100 yellow cabs is right behind the first one.

In Socal, roads are three lanes wide, traffic moves at 45-65mph and it's filled with cars and that's not the freeway. People ride trails around here along the rivers and drive their bikes to areas that are more cyclist friendly instead riding the bike lanes. You want to be next to traffic moving at over 60mphs?
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I get annoyed at cyclist who seem to think that their bikes give them free access to the front of the line at red lights, and I purposely move to block them when I see them trying to illegally pass. Hope one hits me one day so I can get some insurance money out of them, and it'd serve 'em right.
As it is, our town built a dedicated bike sidepath as well as the sidewalk to keep bikers out of the road, so yeah, I chalk down the biker woes to bad city planning.
That's always annoyed me. The same could be said about motorcyclists. I do however always find it nice when a scooterist goes to the side so cars can pass.
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Riding a bike in LA... lol. Riding a bike in NYC... that's some crazy carp there. Taxi runs you over, and then bam the rest of the 100 yellow cabs is right behind the first one.
In Socal, roads are three lanes wide, traffic moves at 45-65mph and it's filled with cars and that's not the freeway. People ride trails around here along the rivers and drive their bikes to areas that are more cyclist friendly instead riding the bike lanes. You want to be next to traffic moving at over 60mphs?

Was that directed at me? I ride on sidewalks lol. I rarely ride on bike lanes unless I'm forced too. smile.gif
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