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Was gonna blow money on a new mouse since so many have come out recently. I prefer having a lightweight, fingertip grip style mouse similar to a diamondback. My list in order of interest:

1) TT Azurues Mini (prediction)
2) TT Saphira (prediction & off center sensor?)
3) Roccat Kova+ (off center sensor)
4) Roccat Savu (non-ambidextrous design that doesn't look good for fingertip grip)
5) CM Recon (kind of bulky looking, looks more like a hybrid palm/claw grip)

All of these mice seem to have some kind of issue. Is the Azurues Mini the one with the least amount of problems for my preferences? The TT mice look like they have the best shapes by far, it's just those crazy sensor positions in some of these that makes you go uhhhhhh.

Also, the Azurues seems to come with a 500hz polling rate instead of 1000hz. I usually prefer 1000hz, I wonder if it has any problems being forced to 1000.
Edited by r0ach - 10/2/12 at 2:50am
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Good choice going with the Azurues Mini vs fullsize. I have both and the full size one feels like you're holding a balloon it's so bulky. I can take a picture when I get home but I believe on the Azurues Mini the sensor is positioned closer to the front of the mouse, rather than perfectly centered, if you want to take that into consideration.
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the only flaw in the azures mini is that it have a lower perfect control speed
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Saphira mouse looks like a imperator from razer ,only with a way better sensor. If i can choose from your money it gonna be the Saphira smile.gif
Only down side from Ttesports not easy to find replacement mousefeet at least i cant find rolleyes.gif
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4) Roccat Savu (non-ambidextrous design that doesn't look good for fingertip grip)
Its actually perfect for fingertip grip.
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Azures Mini: Official weight is ~96g, which I would consider too heavy for optimal fingertip performance. 20g of that is due to built in weights, so if you are comfortable opening the mouse, you can reduce it to 76g, which is respectably light (though lighter mice exist). Out of your list, this is the mouse I would go for (and I'd probably open it up to remove the weights as soon as I'd confirmed that it worked).

Saphira: Given that you still don't get perfect tracking by upgrading to the 3090 sensor from the 3080 in the Mini, I'd struggle to find it worthwhile to have to deal with the extra size and weight of the Saphira.

Kova+: 90g and 12cm long. Personally, I would consider this mouse too heavy for optimal fingertip performance.

Savu: 90g and 12cm long. Personally, I would consider this mouse too heavy for optimal fingertip performance.

CM Recon: Cooler Master consider the Recon to be a palm grip mouse, and given that the list weight is 160-180g (though this is probably with cord), I'd be inclined to agree.

I faced the same issue of wanting a lightweight mouse for fingertip grip, and eventually went for the TS Zealot. Unfortunately, it has an Avago 9500 (with acceleration), but in return, you get a mouse that weighs only 63g. My philosophy is that a perfect sensor is only worthwhile if the shape and weight of the mouse are conducive to your making perfect movements, with your grip style, for that sensor to track. After all, perfectly linear tracking cannot make you more accurate than the motion that you can give to the sensor.
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I faced the same issue of wanting a lightweight mouse for fingertip grip, and eventually went for the TS Zealot. Unfortunately, it has an Avago 9500 (with acceleration), but in return, you get a mouse that weighs only 63g. My philosophy is that a perfect sensor is only worthwhile if the shape and weight of the mouse are conducive to your making perfect movements, with your grip style, for that sensor to track. After all, perfectly linear tracking cannot make you more accurate than the motion that you can give to the sensor.

I had a Salmosa Asia Edition (<60g) and Savu to compare. While Salmosa is very light and easier to fingertip it, a heavier mouse (Savu) is easier to control than the lighter Salmosa and it's not "too heavy" to fingertip.
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Salmosa Asia Edition (<60g)
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Salmosa Asia Edition (<60g)

I feel like my wallet is about to get lighter.

Well, maybe, anyway. I'm still pissed at Razer about the poor build quality of the DeathAdder I had once upon a time...
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Azures Mini: Official weight is ~96g, which I would consider too heavy for optimal fingertip performance.

I'm currently using a G400 with fingertip grip so most likely any of these mice are an improvement heh. My thumb actually holds the g400 under + back from the recessed notch on the left. I'm completely unable to use it's forced shape, which is why I'm leary of trying a Savu because it seems like it would be the same thing.
Edited by r0ach - 10/2/12 at 10:44pm
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R0ach did you buy any mouse from your list?
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