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post #191 of 2434
Sorry to clog up your build log, but quick question. How hard was it for you to take off the faceplate for your Aquearo to switch it out. I've got it unscrewed but the thing does not seem to want to budge. Knowing my luck if I force it it will break.

And on a more important topic. Awesome build so far. Lots of motivation for my own build.
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post #192 of 2434
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Originally Posted by cpachris View Post

Coming along nicely. smile.gif Shrinkless is the new norm.
Thank you. Shrinkless R US.
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Sorry to clog up your build log, but quick question. How hard was it for you to take off the faceplate for your Aquearo to switch it out. I've got it unscrewed but the thing does not seem to want to budge. Knowing my luck if I force it it will break.
And on a more important topic. Awesome build so far. Lots of motivation for my own build.
No problem, I'll help any way I can. I just took out the 4 screws and popped it off, there's nothing else holding it I know of.
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Thank you. Shrinkless R US.
No problem, I'll help any way I can. I just took out the 4 screws and popped it off, there's nothing else holding it I know of.

Thanks. Mine really seems like its glued on there. I can feel tackiness around the edges of the PCB. Trying to pull it apart it doesn't want to budge. How easy was yours to pop off? Wonder if the Pro faceplate is easier to get off.
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post #194 of 2434
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I assumed you had the Pro version since you asked me. I have no idea what other versions are like, never seen them. You should probably just contact Aquacomputer or post on their forum.
post #195 of 2434
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Aaarrrgh. My pump rpm quit showing up in Aquasuite. I don't know what is up with that. I hope something didn't blow up with the AQ5. It had never been unplugged and I noticed yesterday the rpm was no longer showing. thinking.gif

Last night I made and sleeved two replacement fan extensions to run from the pedestal fan harnesses to the AQ5. I used 22 gauge wire and sleeved them with white MDPC and black shrink. Female 3 pin fan connectors on both ends.
Not hearing anything from Case Labs about the revised drop in mounts for the pedestal, I guess they are busy. If I don't hear anything soon I will go ahead and disassemble so I can pull the pedestal out and make the wiring changes and reorient the fans.

Been giving more thought to how I want to try and filter the air to the pedestal fans. When I reorient the fans to blow outwards from the center, my recent thoughts were to install some filters on the bottom plate of the pedestal, and stuff some loose filter material in either end. Once I decide if I'm going to do this I will order some filters. I figure 3 or 4 of the Silverstone 120mm, since they have holes for screws. The magnetic ones would be nice and easy to pull and clean, except aluminum isn't magnetic. Still it would be great if I could figure out some kind of easy release system so that I could reach up underneath with my hand and remove them. If I could fix some screws or studs stationary I could maybe use wing nuts. Or maybe I'm a wing nut, IDK.
I'll ponder this and other pressing questions over another cup of coffee.
post #196 of 2434
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Something I may not had mentioned earlier, concerning gpu temps.
For a short bit I was running the water flow parallel through the gpu blocks, using two of the Bitspower Aqua link pipes. Although the look was nice, the idle temps were in the 40's! When I went back to the serial connection the temps dropped back into the mid to high 20's, depending on ambient temp.
So this is a lesson I learned about water cooling. You may want parallel flow through your gpu blocks, but whether or not it will help is entirely dependent on your components/setup.


Also want to send my thoughts out to those experiencing problems from Sandy. I truly hope and pray you and your families are all safe and sound.
Having lived in Florida most of my life I've experienced many times the awesome power of hurricanes and the subsequent damage, flooding, power outages and just general mayhem involved.
Material things can be replaced, people can not. Be safe as best you can and reach out to your neighbors and friends and check on them if you will, especially the elderly and disabled. You might have an opportunity to save someone's life just by checking up on them.
post #197 of 2434
Have you considered just going filterless? I'm going to try that route first, and if it creates too much dust too quickly...I'll rethink it. But with some compressed air in a can...or an air compressor if you have it...its pretty simple to blast the box clean in just a few minutes. Even the best air filter reduces air flow pretty significantly. biggrin.gif

If you find a good easy to remove solution....make sure and post info. Right now in my Antec 1200 case....I have to take the sides of the case, remove the screws for the HDD cage, slide the cage out a litlle....and THEN I can remove the filter. Pain in the arse. If you find an attractive magentic or clip-on solution....I'd be interested in trying it.
post #198 of 2434
The magnetic demciflex filters come with sticky magnetic tape so that they work even with non magnetic cases. They'll make custom sizes for you too if you need.

cpachris - yes I do this too the CaseLabs quick release rad mounts make life easy when coupled with quick disconnects that I think it's easier than getting filters. Low FPI rads with slower fans also help to not pick up as much dust too smile.gif My mora takes about 6-12 times longer to get full of dust than my black ice gtx rads with AP15s.

the metro datavac is a great dust remover tool also.
     
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post #199 of 2434
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I've got all kinds of air compressors, but they are in my shop and shed. Very dusty here and pet hair to boot. I was thinking 3 or 4 120mm filters on the bottom of the pedestal would be good.

I have to pull the case off the pedestal to gain access. Actually my pedestal is not as wide as yours and the simplest way for me to install 2 rads in push/pull is to take the end off the pedestal so I have room enough to slide them both in. Once fully assembled with fans they won't both fit down through the top on the SM8 pedestal. Only takes a minute to pull the end off, though.
Actually if I had installed Monstas instead of UT60's there would have only been about a fingers' width between the fans.

I thought about quick disconnects but in the end decided to go with bulkhead fittings. Takes some tricky moves to assemble everything by yourself but doable. This keeps the case and pedestal two totally separate environments.
post #200 of 2434
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Looks like the rpm output on the pump failed. I moved the tach wire to the PA2 and still no signal.
Very disappointing. Not sure how/if this affects PWM control since I'm just running power control through the AQ5. I'll have to think about whether it's a big enough issue to be worth worrying about.
The up side is apparently there is no problem with the AQ5, and for that I'm glad.
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