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I like to put them on the back of the motherboard after I take them off the front.

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Hi Mandrix, Quick question. I am going to shorten up and sleeve the cables on all my 120mm rad fans, what size sleeving and heatshrink will I need? I thought I'd ask the "Sleeve Master" biggrin.gif
All of my fan cable sleeving is the regular MDPC.
For the shrink I use 1/4". For colored shrink, white, red, etc you can get from a variety of places, for black I just get the cheap priced stuff from Allied Electronics, I also use this for shrinkless sleeving as it's only around $0.55 for a 4 foot section. They also have 1/8" black which I find handy when I need to patch a soldered wire. This is thinwalled 3:1 shrink.
https://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70133170

Nils (MDPC) has some excellent 4:1 colored thinwall shrink. It's sort of pricey, and it does not expand well as it will split, otherwise it gives a very tight fit.
I tend to use the black from Allied for a lot of stuff since I like to wrap the shink over the end of the fan connectors, which means expanding the shrink a little with needlenose pliers.
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For some changes coming up I needed to move the pedestal tubing in/out to the rear of the case a little. Counting from the back the in/outs were in the third fan cutout, now in the second one. This gives me a little more room forward for the dual pumps. My replacement pump should be here Thursday and I can get the dualies set back up and get the wiring sleeved again. thumb.gif
Also 1/2" pipe fittings should be here in a few days.


Not been happy with some recent 3/8" tubing I bought, it wants to "crinkle" on extreme bends. Going back to Lowes soon and pick up some type "L" coil. The piece from the flow meter to the cpu block is about the ugliest I've made so far and I hope some different tubing will fix that.
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the copper tubing is definitely unique. Not the look I'll be going for but still very nice work My concern would be the stress you might put on some of the components if the bend isn't PERFECT per se. Just my thoughts.
    
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the copper tubing is definitely unique. Not the look I'll be going for but still very nice work My concern would be the stress you might put on some of the components if the bend isn't PERFECT per se. Just my thoughts.
You mean as opposed to a huge air cooler hanging off a motherboard? lol.

No offense, but just another example of people overthinking things. If the components don't line up correctly, the tubing either will not fit or will leak.
That said, there is a certain amount of flex in the tubing and in the fittings I'm using.
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All of my fan cable sleeving is the regular MDPC.
For the shrink I use 1/4". For colored shrink, white, red, etc you can get from a variety of places, for black I just get the cheap priced stuff from Allied Electronics, I also use this for shrinkless sleeving as it's only around $0.55 for a 4 foot section. They also have 1/8" black which I find handy when I need to patch a soldered wire. This is thinwalled 3:1 shrink.
https://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70133170

Nils (MDPC) has some excellent 4:1 colored thinwall shrink. It's sort of pricey, and it does not expand well as it will split, otherwise it gives a very tight fit.
I tend to use the black from Allied for a lot of stuff since I like to wrap the shink over the end of the fan connectors, which means expanding the shrink a little with needlenose pliers.

Thanks for the info Mandrix, much appreciated.
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You mean as opposed to a huge air cooler hanging off a motherboard? lol.

No offense, but just another example of people overthinking things. If the components don't line up correctly, the tubing either will not fit or will leak.
That said, there is a certain amount of flex in the tubing and in the fittings I'm using.

No, I guess I'm digging the whole clear/uv tubing thing. Like I said, I do like the uniqueness of what you are doing. but the stress issue crossed my mind when I first saw it. Not being critical, just and observation. That's all. tongue.gif
    
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Thanks for the info Mandrix, much appreciated.

You are welcome. If I can help with anything let me know.
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No, I guess I'm digging the whole clear/uv tubing thing. Like I said, I do like the uniqueness of what you are doing. but the stress issue crossed my mind when I first saw it. Not being critical, just and observation. That's all. tongue.gif
Sure, you never know enough about things until you try it yourself. I'm still learning about copper tubing types, but as far as added stress that hasn't been on my radar and seems to be a non issue.
I was into clear and UV tubing in the beginning, I quit clear because of pasticizer and dropped UV because I decided I really don't like it. You always have to try it to find out, I guess. smile.gif
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You are welcome. If I can help with anything let me know.
Sure, you never know enough about things until you try it yourself. I'm still learning about copper tubing types, but as far as added stress that hasn't been on my radar and seems to be a non issue.
I was into clear and UV tubing in the beginning, I quit clear because of pasticizer and dropped UV because I decided I really don't like it. You always have to try it to find out, I guess. smile.gif

I hear ya... I'm thinking I'm in for quite a lesson soon when I get started blinksmiley.gif
    
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Thanks for the help Mandrix, I ordered some 1/4" heatshrink from Allied yesterday. I do have one more question. My case fans have a yellow wire in addition to the positive and negative wires, I am assuming that the yellow wire is for RPM signal? should I remove the yellow wires from all except one fan, So that when I connect my rad fans to one of the fan headers on the Aquaero it will read the RPMs properly? Not sure if I'm making sense or not. This is my first attempt at sleeving and setting up an Aquearo, thanks.
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Thanks for the help Mandrix, I ordered some 1/4" heatshrink from Allied yesterday. I do have one more question. My case fans have a yellow wire in addition to the positive and negative wires, I am assuming that the yellow wire is for RPM signal? should I remove the yellow wires from all except one fan, So that when I connect my rad fans to one of the fan headers on the Aquaero it will read the RPMs properly? Not sure if I'm making sense or not. This is my first attempt at sleeving and setting up an Aquearo, thanks.
Yep, the rpm wire is usually yellow. Not a stupid question at all, this seems a common problem when people start wiring up multiple fans to one header and wonder why they get no rpm readout. Took me a while to get a handle on all this but now after making so many fan harnesses it all comes much easier.

You don't need to alter the fan wiring, but whatever makes the final connection (i.e. fan harness/splitter etc) must be picking the rpm from only one fan in the group.

On my later fan wiring I leave all the fan wires intact, then build a harness with male hooded fan connectors. I only use the power and ground pins in the male connectors except for one connector which will have all three pins. This way you have a choice of which fan to use to monitor rpm's. May seem like a small thing, but for various reasons I've seen one fan in a group display a lower rpm average than others. Then again what if you have problems with the one fan that has the rpm wire intact? Or want to move fans around later? Leaving all three wires just seems like the way to go for me anyway.
Not necessary, just one of those things I like to do as with my luck anything that can happen will happen sooner or later.

Anything else just ask. smile.gif

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My replacement MCP35x should be here today from Swiftech and I can start reassembling the dual pumps and sleeve the wiring.
Should be getting my mini 1/2" pipe bender as well and I'm curious to see how well this $5 bender works. I've already received 6 of the Koolance fittings for the 1/2" tubing that will go between the res>pumps>RX240>pedestal.

When I get through all this I want to take another look at my gpu wiring. I don't like the way it looks since I moved the psu to the top of the case, and I'm thinking of starting over and just making new gpu wiring, although I did shorten it up some a while back.
I've already made some changes in the wiring that powers the dual Aquaero's to try and cut down on the glut of wires coming through the side of the case.
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