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This is competition, and competition is always good for consumers.

If you consider "Playing poker with a totally stacked deck" competition, then you and I have a very different view of the meaning of the word "competition".

Oh just stop already. The only way you stand to gain here is through this high speed internet. You are not an ATT or Google shareholder of any weight so just stop.
post #52 of 92
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Oh just stop already. The only way you stand to gain here is through this high speed internet. You are not an ATT or Google shareholder of any weight so just stop.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you weren't allowed to have an opinion and point out facts of a biased deal, unless it is in favor of a company you like or against a company you don't.

My apologizes, I'm new to this whole "fanboi" thing.
post #53 of 92
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Oh just stop already. The only way you stand to gain here is through this high speed internet. You are not an ATT or Google shareholder of any weight so just stop.

How do you know?
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Oh just stop already. The only way you stand to gain here is through this high speed internet. You are not an ATT or Google shareholder of any weight so just stop.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you weren't allowed to have an opinion and point out facts of a biased deal, unless it is in favor of a company you like or against a company you don't.

My apologizes, I'm new to this whole "fanboi" thing.
My post was ignored... why?

Oh wait, who's the fanboy here?
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My post was ignored... why?

Because it is irrelevant.

Google IS a conglomerate. It doesn't matter if they aren't one in THIS SECTOR or not ... or are you saying that WSJ is biased for conglomerates in the telecommunications sector? If so, I'd love to see your proof of that.
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As if AT&T and TW haven't invested in KC's infrastructure?
Seems to me, Google doesn't have to invest MUCH of anything into KC's infrastructure, if that is true (which I doubt that AT&T, TW, and WSJ would like about what's in a public document/contract). Google gets a TON of "free stuff" that is already in place, including fiber.
Again, I guess I have a different viewpoint as to he term "investing" and "using existing".

I don't understand your position. Google is offering a better service for cheaper while creating new and using existing infrastructure. If you understand anything about fiber, there is a lot that they need to invest in (as most of the infrastructure right now is probally node to node, not node to end). Fiber is very expensive, the only reason google would be getting the "perks" is because they would be investing millions (if not close to a billion) of dollars into the local economy (jobs, materials, ect).

Why are you getting so emotional about this?

I would consider ATT and TW to be the ones with the "stacked deck" at the poker table, not google. They are entrenched, and I wish google would come here to knock out our entrenched monopoly (charter).
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If you consider "Playing poker with a totally stacked deck" competition, then you and I have a very different view of the meaning of the word "competition".

They've had their chance to play with a "totally stacked deck" for a long time and they haven't done anything but sit and moan

http://www.newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm
http://www.spectacle.org/997/enode.html
http://www.freepress.net/node/74796

AT&T crying because somebody else got preferential treatment? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAFAHGAGHAGHAGASFkaJALFASF!!11 Now all we need to do is keep a hand cocked back ready to ***** slap Google if it does anything shady with its fiber (usage agreements that give them all you line data for mining, bias towards google services, etc.)

http://videosift.com/video/ATT

It's funny that you can't find this video on youtube anymore?
post #58 of 92
this is pretty fair imo..
google gets: 10dollar/pole
google gives: free 10mbps/70dollar unlimited gigabit internet

twc/att gets: 18.95/pole
att/twc gives: 80dollar internet @ 30mbps, huge cap, crappy customer service

i wouldve given google those poles for free..
 
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TWC is literally the worst ISP ever. I have nights where I get 1Mb/sec down and .25Mb/sec up. I pay for around 10Mb/sec down and 1Mb/sec up. I very rarely get what I pay for, and they do nothing to fix it.
post #60 of 92
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this is pretty fair imo..
google gets: 10dollar/pole
google gives: free 10mbps/70dollar unlimited gigabit internet
twc/att gets: 18.95/pole
att/twc gives: 80dollar internet @ 30mbps, huge cap, crappy customer service
i wouldve given google those poles for free..

Free? If would vote for my city to PAY for google to put up lines on my cities poles if I had to.
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