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except they don't mostly. they mostly just say: "this sounds better to me." with no objective evidence. as far as audio being subjective, ask recording engineers. they would beg to differ. yes, tastes vary. not everyone prefers accurate sound, some prefer colored. doesn't change the fact that we can objectively measure accurate audio reproduction with scientific instruments
actually computers are similar to audio in this way. i can buy speakers that produce sound that goes beyond the human hearing spectrum (far beyond in fact, but for a very premium price). you can argue that such performance is pointless, and it probably is.
on the other hand, a lot of audiophiles are simply focused on things that would make no difference, even assuming humans had a vastly more acute sense of hearing, stuff like audio cables. overclock.net could be called overkill.net, but head-fi.com would be more accurately described as "voodoo.com" most of the time

The reason why the Objective 2 project was born. smile.gif

Computers seems like the opposite of audio objective/subjective wise. One is more subjective, and the other is more objective (you should be able to tell which is which). However, both do get to the point where the improvement would be negligible because either we won't notice a difference or we can't act fast enough to take advantage of that difference (for example, a machine that takes 1/2 a second to open Chrome and another machine that takes 1 second to open Chrome but you still don't react until, let's say, 2 seconds later in which the faster boot is probably for nothing more than e-peen or something of the sort).

But remember, that word doesn't exist on this forum. tongue.gif

Edit: and don't take the reaction time example too literally because I couldn't think of anything so I just had to throw something in quickly.
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You may want to consider revising your example before the entirety of OCN blows it wide open
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Not true.redface.gif
Hint: DACs don't really matter anymore. It's all about implementation.

I agree, the shielding issues on my Galaxy S II (Yamaha DAC) were not implemented good and therefore I can hear lots of background noise....
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Yes, it's true, lol. The DAC means everything on smartphones.
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
My GS3 sounds better than any Beats software and better than iPhones (the 3GS was the closest I've found in quality).

? Don't the iphones also use the Wolfsons DAC?
Same with the Galaxy S 1...

I couldn't confirm this with any Galaxy S III...

Like others have said, you don't just throw in a high quality DAC/AMP and everything remains the same. The circuitry, the firmware, and many other factors come into play to ensure good audio output. The iPhone seems to have the best "all-in-one" device for the general public. You can also grab Auzentech's add on that gives it extra battery life and a headphone amplifier. This was going to be my only reason for getting an iPhone 4S, as I would have liked an all in one player, but the lack of FLAC and the restrictive iOS and shoddy design kept me off. When you start to push the higher end of the spectrum, you don't use a phone as your main source, but for a casual listening device, while maintaining solid quality, it isn't "bad".
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