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post #31 of 133
10/2/12 at 8:15pm
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Regarding the whole FLAC vs MP3 thing, let's put it this way:
It takes less time to copy a FLAC file from your computer than it does to re-encode to MP3 and then copy that.
And cgg123321, i-it's not like I l-like your sig-rig's name or anything...

Personally I can't tell the difference between V0, 320, or flac. However, I get flac anyways because I can and the placebo feels good man. +1 on the conversion part, I'm much too lazy to try to convert my music


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10/2/12 at 8:31pm
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Personally I can't tell the difference between V0, 320, or flac. However, I get flac anyways because I can and the placebo feels good man. +1 on the conversion part, I'm much too lazy to try to convert my music
OT, but brofist for VN Rin.
I always have FLAC because I work quite a bit with waveform edits (but not live voice recordings tongue.gif) and frequently export to a verity of different audio formats, and the last thing you want to do is convert MP3 to OGG vorbis or the like - that's a conversion process that can actually cause noticeable audio degradation. In particular, I like to make looping edits of songs to use as custom videogame soundtracks and stuff, and they use all kinds of formats (MP3, OGG vorbis, BIK, and BRSTM come to mind).

I also sometimes upload those looping edits to my YouTube channel, in particular music from the Fate/stay night visual novel (I'm looking at you cgg123321), and anyone should know that YouTube re-encodes everything that gets uploaded. Now some people think YouTube isn't great quality in the first place, but actually their 720p+ WebM uses Q6 OGG vorbis - arguably higher quality than even Amazon's 256kbps MP3s.

OT: double bro-fist back at you. Avatar image was ripped directly from the fgimage.XP3 archive which itself came right from a certain box of awesomeness.
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10/2/12 at 8:49pm
Creative and a Smartphone, please have a shameless relationship wink.gif

Music on my desktop is just amazing compared to iPod and earbuds.
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10/2/12 at 8:58pm
why is the blackberries not on here..

most of them have a 3.5mm jack
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10/2/12 at 9:00pm
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NO audiophile would plug DT990s into an iphone, or any phone for that matter. You are high if you think the phone matters.

Audiophiles will plug their phone into a external DAC/AMP via line out completely bypassing the phones audio chip. The DT990s would be plugged into the DAC/AMP.
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10/2/12 at 9:00pm
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I always have FLAC because I work quite a bit with waveform edits (but not live voice

your mic blows..sounds like its from a bathroom
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10/2/12 at 9:04pm
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your mic blows..sounds like its from a bathroom
Indeed it does. tongue.gif I'm an EDITOR, not a broadcaster. wink.gif (seriously, I hardly know anything about microphones)

Even with uber-editor skills, you can't make crap suddenly sound incredible; it's the same way you can't make magic out of a 128kbps MP3 converted from a YouTube video that itself was originally a 128kbps MP3. Crap in, crap out.
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 10/2/12 at 9:13pm
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10/2/12 at 9:09pm
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I always have FLAC because I work quite a bit with waveform edits (but not live voice recordings tongue.gif) and frequently export to a verity of different audio formats, and the last thing you want to do is convert MP3 to OGG vorbis or the like - that's a conversion process that can actually cause noticeable audio degradation. In particular, I like to make looping edits of songs to use as custom videogame soundtracks and stuff, and they use all kinds of formats (MP3, OGG vorbis, BIK, and BRSTM come to mind).
I also sometimes upload those looping edits to my YouTube channel, in particular music from the Fate/stay night visual novel (I'm looking at you cgg123321), and anyone should know that YouTube re-encodes everything that gets uploaded. Now some people think YouTube isn't great quality in the first place, but actually their 720p+ WebM uses Q6 OGG vorbis - arguably higher quality than even Amazon's 256kbps MP3s.
OT: double bro-fist back at you. Avatar image was ripped directly from the fgimage.XP3 archive which itself came right from a certain box of awesomeness.

That's actually probably the best use for flac - compact storage for wave files used for editing. Relating back to phones, I think flac is probably overkill for phones (then again, this is overclock.net).

OT: looping edits of the FSN soundtrack? That's awesome, I loop the album while I study and do homework since vocals usually distract me. The only downside I had with the soundtrack was that the tracks were a bit short. Respect for having both copies of the game, I'm definite going to hunt down a copy once I get my Engineering Co-op job next year thumb.gif
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It's difficult to tell the difference between 320kbps MP3 and FLAC (if properly encoded).

On many sources, and through many headphones and IEMs, I agree. Once you step up to better sources (Cowon, HiFiMan, some iPods, Clip+, newer smart phones with better DACs & amps), use better audio formats (.aac, .m4a, wav, FLAC, etc.), and use quality headphones/IEMs driven properly, the differences become apparent. What I've noticed is not problems with the sources, but with the headphones and IEMs used. There's a lot of cheap crap out there.

For anyone who cares: download foobar2000. Then download the ABX Comparator for it. Find a song you know intimately and acquire a lossless version of it. Then compress it to a 320kbps, a 256 kbps, and a 120-something kbps version. Use the above program to see if you can tell the difference. If you can't, it's most likely because you either do not have sensitive enough hearing for the higher bit-rate encodings to matter to you, or you don't have the hardware to show you the differences.
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10/2/12 at 9:24pm
A few years back my sister got a Sony Walkman CD player and, like most things, came with earbuds. She only wanted it to hook speakers up to it for home use, so she let me have the earbuds for messing around with. Turns out I was actually able to tell the difference between lossless and ~160kbps with Foobar's ABX test with said earbuds. It was difficult, but the stats showed I wasn't entirely guessing.

For lulz I should try that test again now that I can actually make my PC be entirely silent (AKA turn the fans off) and see just how good those earbuds really are. While they're not Sennheisers or anything, they're the best pair I've ever heard that were nothing more than just a bundled pack-in!
Edited by Nintendo Maniac 64 - 10/2/12 at 9:34pm
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