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This planet is going through cyclical changes, of which we don't quite yet understand, parts of which we do, much of which we lack actual data for.

Man has contributed to polluting and to destruction, in that there is no doubt.

However nature has a way of balancing things out.

Just wait and see what happens when mother nature decides it's time for a re-balance.
    
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This planet is going through cyclical changes, of which we don't quite yet understand, parts of which we do, much of which we lack actual data for.

Man has contributed to polluting and to destruction, in that there is no doubt.

However nature has a way of balancing things out.

Just wait and see what happens when mother nature decides it's time for a re-balance.

Definitely. Mother nature has destroyed much more than a giant reef in her day. The question is, do we try and fight it, or just allow it to happen? It's a similar problem with forest fires, we've fought them so much it's actually caused more trees than would naturally have been there, whereas if we don't fight them there would be a natural balance but more homes lost in the process. It is selfish to try and maintain something that would otherwise be killed off?
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Oh no, a thing is happening!

On Earth!

/ignorance
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what?so i wont be able to get calcium coral suplement?damm!
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Definitely. Mother nature has destroyed much more than a giant reef in her day. The question is, do we try and fight it, or just allow it to happen? It's a similar problem with forest fires, we've fought them so much it's actually caused more trees than would naturally have been there, whereas if we don't fight them there would be a natural balance but more homes lost in the process. It is selfish to try and maintain something that would otherwise be killed off?

Hrmm... thinking.gif Good question.

I would put it to the soil problem, in the same light. We're destroying the top soil in heavy farming areas (if not already destroyed) where they (the soil) now do not have the ability to regenerate and replenish nutrients on its own. Over time I think the soil if left be would eventually come back. I would think the same for the reef - without intervention.

But I don't think we can talk ourselves (mankind) into stopping intervention...
    
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Definitely. Mother nature has destroyed much more than a giant reef in her day. The question is, do we try and fight it, or just allow it to happen? It's a similar problem with forest fires, we've fought them so much it's actually caused more trees than would naturally have been there, whereas if we don't fight them there would be a natural balance but more homes lost in the process. It is selfish to try and maintain something that would otherwise be killed off?

Its hard to fight such an awesome force, if mother nature selects something to die out, then it would be hard for us to keep it around, perhaps the reef has simply lived long enough and with the changing conditions on our planet is no longer suitable to exist where it is?

That said, as humans we should do our best to reduce our impact on nature.

This video is a good example of something we need to change.
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Ah, it's only a matter of time until the next asteroid erases us from existence and the world is reborn yet again. Time, nature and all the forces of the universe will one day right our wrongs.

Edit- This is not a justification by any means.
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Just like all the species that have gone extinct in the last 100 years? Some things will not just "be fine" without a bit of proactive conservation.

Okay now, I'm not saying that man shouldn't try to help the situation. But I would like to point out that often whenever man intervenes with good intentions, it can actually make matters worse.

Here is just one example: Roughly 100 years ago, the US government eliminated all wolves from Yellowstone National Park. The intent was to save the Elk that were dying off. They succeeding in killing all the wolves, but after that the Elk population started going crazy. Because of that, there wasn't enough food for all the other species. So there was a trickle down effect that was causing almost all other species in the park to suffer. To solve this problem, in 1995 they started re-introducing wolves to the park. Ever since then, they've noticed that everything is going back to normal, and everything is just fine how it is.


It seems like a similar situation to me. If they kill off all the starfish that are eating the coral (as this scientist proposes). It could very well trigger some other kind of unpredictable natural disaster, which may or may not have an easy solution.

People are so prone to knee-jerk reactions, it's quite scary (and I'm convinced it will be the end of the human race one day). Just take some time and put some thought into it, and we can fix anything. But don't just do the first thing that comes to mind because it seems to be the easiest and most obvious solution. That does NOT make it the correct solution.
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They'll be fine.

Just like all the species that have gone extinct in the last 100 years?

Extinction didn't start one hundred years ago, and it is fairly often that the planet ends up losing the majority of lifeforms living here for many different reasons. You should protest meteorites (a surviving meteor) if you want to try and protect against extinction. I'll make the signs.
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They'll be fine.

Just like all the species that have gone extinct in the last 100 years?

Extinction didn't start one hundred years ago, and it is fairly often that the planet ends up losing the majority of lifeforms living here for many different reasons. You should protest meteorites (a surviving meteor) if you want to try and protect against extinction. I'll make the signs.

Extinctions have increased exponentially since the industrial revolution though.
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