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Trinity APU GPU Cores 384 vs 256. Could OCing The 256 Match The 384?? + Other APU Q's.

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Hi i posted a thread a while ago asking for a £200 budget gamer rig for a friend. I put together something BUT after the release of the "Trinity" APU's i have to say that i have now changed my mind and decided that for the low res (720p) that the gaming will take place one of the APU's should have enough "grunt" to push XBox beating graphics with a bit to spare. I have chosen the following:

ARIANET Impact Black Micro-ATX Case w/ 500W Power Supply.
160GB ARIANET 3.5" SATA II Hard Drive - Refurbished.
Samsung SH-S222BB/BEBE DVD Writer.
AMD (Trinity) A8-5600K Black Edition Quad-Core Unlocked.

Comes to: £147.66.

Then the MoBo (from somewhere else!):

ASRock FM2A55M-DGS AMD A55 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard.

Comes to: £53.96.

For a grand total of: £201.62.


One thing you will notice that this build is lacking is the DDR3. I will be donating some Corsairs DDR3 1600 to the build (4gb). My main questions are:

Do you think it would be possible to OC the 256 GPU cores the 5600K has so it performs at a level of a 5800K (the one i REALLY wanted to get!). I will be performing a "modest" OC on both CPU and GPU if possible on the standard cooler. Just would like to know if i could get the level of performance of a 5800K and only pay 5600K prices:thumb:.

I hear that the DDR3 that you use can make a GREAT deal of difference in the overall GPU "power" do you think i would be "hobbling" it to much if say i used the RAM in my rig (does an "easy" 1733mhz@ default timings).

What do you think of the MoBo? Never used ASRock so not sure of the quality?? (I doubt it would be pushed to it's limit imho just to a modest OC on the standard cooler). Do you think it would be a stable long term solution (OR do you know of any other MoBo'S that are better for the SAME OR LESS MONEY INC DELIVERY.

Any other advice regarding the build would be very much helpfull.

Thanx.
    
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I would say yeah you can easily get the cpu to 5800k performance levels, and it shouldn't be too difficult getting the gpu near it. also overclock the ram to 1866 or higher if you can, the processor and the igpu both love high memory speeds!


Edit: as for the motherboard, not the one i would chose, it's only a 3+1 vrm, with no cooling. Id be looking for at least a 4+1 with a heat sink if your going to be overclocking.


Double edit: where are you ordering from, perhaps i can take a look through their motherboard selection and help you choose a better one that will still fit your budget.
Edited by Cannon19932006 - 10/2/12 at 6:09pm
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I would say yeah you can easily get the cpu to 5800k performance levels, and it shouldn't be too difficult getting the gpu near it. also overclock the ram to 1866 or higher if you can, the processor and the igpu both love high memory speeds!
Edit: as for the motherboard, not the one i would chose, it's only a 3+1 vrm, with no cooling. Id be looking for at least a 4+1 with a heat sink if your going to be overclocking.
Double edit: where are you ordering from, perhaps i can take a look through their motherboard selection and help you choose a better one that will still fit your budget.

Well considering OP wants to overclock the gpu, I'm gunna repeat some advice I read elsewhere, is you'll want a +2 phase for the gpu/nb side. so a 4+2 or 3+2.

In one of the many reviews over the last couple days there was a comparison of the 7660D oc'd vs the 7560? oc'd. You'll probably have to sift through a bunch to find it, but it was a very in depth one with good mem speeds too, so that should narrow it down somewhat. Overall, I'm pretty sure it was better then stock 7660D but still couldn't catch it when oc'd.

I know at least some of the asus lower end boards are 3+2. The trinity/llano imc is a bit better then your phenom imc, so better ram speeds might be possible.

Waiting for my a10 to get transfered.

Yeroon

Edit - the f2a55-m lk is 3+2. Look through the fm2 mobo thread in amd mobo section for others with a 3+2.
Edited by Yeroon - 10/2/12 at 10:34pm
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