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post #21 of 46
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

Sounds like Apple may have planted someone who would throw the ruling in their favor.
Again, if the jury was at all influenced by an outside force (in this case, the foreman had an outstanding background with Samsung), then the ruling can be thrown out simply on the grounds that the trial was "unfair"

how the hell do you plant someone into a jury when its decided by government agencies who goes on the jury...
post #22 of 46
Hmmm. Interesting stuff.

He lied in the interview too, stating that he was asked to disclose any cases he was involved in "in the last 10 years". However the court transcripts make no mention of a time limit, which means that he either mis-remembered the question or he is lying to cover himself.

He also says
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hogan 
Had I been asked an open-ended question with no time constraint, of course I would’ve disclosed that

Here is the question he was asked:
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Originally Posted by Court transcript 
Have you or a family member or someone very close to you even been involved in a lawsuit, either as a plaintiff, a defendant, or as a witness?"
(Source, Page 7 line 18).

Seems pretty open ended to me.


A part of me wonders if Samsung knew about this before hand, but let it go anyway thus giving them a "get out of jail free" card to use later.
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post #23 of 46
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A part of me wonders if Samsung knew about this before hand, but let it go anyway thus giving them a "get out of jail free" card to use later.

Its the question be asked by Apple's lawyers now. Apparently the spouse of a partner at the firm Samsung is using, was the lawyer involved in the Seagate trial vs this guy.
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In response to Samsung’s motion detailing Velvin Hogan’s failure to reveal his litigation with Seagate during voir dire and its impact on the integrity of the trial and the verdict, Apple demanded that Samsung disclose the timing of its knowledge regarding those facts.
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Were you wondering how Samsung found out about the lawsuit that Hogan failed to mention in voir dire, the litigation between Seagate and Hogan that Samsung dug up? Apple was, as I'll show you. You wouldn't believe it if it was in a movie script. The lawyer who sued Mr. Hogan on behalf of Seagate back in 1993 is now married to a partner at Quinn Emanuel, the lawyers for Samsung.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20121002201632770
Edited by fantasyalive - 10/4/12 at 9:26am
post #24 of 46
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Originally Posted by $ilent View Post

Arent people on the jury supposed to be chosen at random? Surely this guy hasnt been randomly picked to be on this huge court case and just so happens to have had a run in with a company owned by Samsung?
Sounds like bullcrap to me.

Yes, the jury pool is selected at random (usually by registered voters), but BOTH the defense and prosecution have the right to ask questions of all the witnesses and exclude people who have obvious bias.

That is part of our whole "Fair and Impartial" jury system.
post #25 of 46
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

Hmmm. Interesting stuff.
He lied in the interview too, stating that he was asked to disclose any cases he was involved in "in the last 10 years". However the court transcripts make no mention of a time limit, which means that he either mis-remembered the question or he is lying to cover himself.
He also says
Here is the question he was asked:
(Source, Page 7 line 18).
Seems pretty open ended to me.
A part of me wonders if Samsung knew about this before hand, but let it go anyway thus giving them a "get out of jail free" card to use later.


This guy must is a pathological liar?
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'HOLY WOMBATS!!! THE FOREMAN MUST HAVE BEEN PLANTED TO SKEW THE OUTCOME, HANDING APPLE THE CASE ON A SILVER PLATTER!'

...... hahahahhaha! biggrin.gif. I love seeing these threads pop-up. Instead of going to Comedy Central to get my daily dose of humor, I just read what the latest (and greatest) theories are in relation to these cases.


ps. the world's out to get you guys wink.gif
post #27 of 46
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Its the question be asked by Apple's lawyers now. Apparently the spouse of a partner at the firm Samsung is using, was the lawyer involved in the Seagate trial vs this guy.

Yes, Apple may argue that Samsung should have known about this before, it still does not change the fact that Hogan lied by omission when asked about previous court cases.

The spousal relationship will be easily dismissed; it would be a bit of a stretch to expect a lawyer to remember the name of someone they sued 19 years ago... Think back 19 years, can you remember the names of all the school / work projects you were involved in?
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Yes, Apple may argue that Samsung should have known about this before, it still does not change the fact that Hogan lied by omission when asked about previous court cases.
The spousal relationship will be easily dismissed; it would be a bit of a stretch to expect a lawyer to remember the name of someone they sued 19 years ago... Think back 19 years, can you remember the names of all the school / work projects you were involved in?


According to Samsung because he lied it prevented Samsung from doing a proper discovery to uncover said lies. You know, he was under oath right?


About the 19 years ago... you'd remember the kid that beat you right? Maybe you'd even have bad dreams about it, vengeful long building resentments? It's not unlikely. And the guy lied about it in the interview, as if he knew before hand and was ready for a statement to diffuse his feelings of the past.
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Yes, the jury pool is selected at random (usually by registered voters), but BOTH the defense and prosecution have the right to ask questions of all the witnesses and exclude people who have obvious bias.
That is part of our whole "Fair and Impartial" jury system.

This

They argue to include/exclude members selected from the pool for a variety of reasons.

It's called strangely enough..."jury selection". So the process is not entirely random, though its genesis is.

OT: Sounds like a cause on appeal.
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This could seriously blow up in Apples face...
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