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post #11 of 22
10/3/12 at 9:21am
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Learn a high level language like C++ or Java before application-specific languages like HTML.
I always recommend learning SQL as well.

Thanks for that, Duckie. thumb.gif
I think from what you guys are saying and from what I'm reading and watching online, I'll start with C++, then make my way from there!
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post #12 of 22
10/3/12 at 9:24am
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Okay, I understand then. Lots of formulas, which i was never all to great at, but that was because I thought I'd never use them again doh.gif
I could always re-learn them and make an attempt. Thanks for the heads-up though, I appreciate it guys smile.gif

Those are only necessary when you're applying them with more advanced stuff.
If you're just starting out, I doubt you'll be going anywhere near there.

Also, I highly recommend learning Python as your first language; simple syntax that will allow you to start programming right away, vs. something slightly lower level like C which will force to you to learn a lot more language specifics and syntax before you can get your first Hello World up and going.
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10/3/12 at 9:29am
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Those are only necessary when you're applying them with more advanced stuff.
If you're just starting out, I doubt you'll be going anywhere near there.
Also, I highly recommend learning Python as your first language; simple syntax that will allow you to start programming right away, vs. something slightly lower level like C which will force to you to learn a lot more language specifics and syntax before you can get your first Hello World up and going.

I've heard a lot about Python recently, what exactly is it used for?
I really appreciate the advice smile.gif
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post #14 of 22
10/3/12 at 10:52am
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I recommend Java or C++. I started out with C years ago, did a little C++ and now it's Java for the last 10+ years. I'm getting back into C++ because I'm planning a KDE/QT project.

Being old-school I wouldn't call HTML or XML a programming language since you can't really express logic with them; I put them in the same boat as TeX, PDF and PostScript. However, JavaScript is frequently used alongside HTML and XML in web pages, so is also worth learning.

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Learn a high level language like C++ or Java before application-specific languages like HTML.
I always recommend learning SQL as well.

3GL languages are high level? Really? What does that make SQL? tongue.gif
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post #15 of 22
10/3/12 at 11:50am
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I've heard a lot about Python recently, what exactly is it used for?
I really appreciate the advice smile.gif

Tons of things. It's a platform-agnostic language which is interpreted and not compiled; this means that you can use the same code to run your program on multiple platforms with no changes (some minimal OS-specific changes may be required) as long as that client has the Python interpreter installed.

It's syntax is incredibly clear and readable so it's really easy to get started with. Now, being an interpreted language, it's not as fast as C++ so it's used mainly as a scripting language, i.e., for serious applications, you'd use it on top of a library written in C++. But, as a scripting language, it excels.

Check out Panda3D for an example of where you would use Python for a large and complex application.
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10/3/12 at 12:27pm
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Tons of things. It's a platform-agnostic language which is interpreted and not compiled; this means that you can use the same code to run your program on multiple platforms with no changes (some minimal OS-specific changes may be required) as long as that client has the Python interpreter installed.
It's syntax is incredibly clear and readable so it's really easy to get started with. Now, being an interpreted language, it's not as fast as C++ so it's used mainly as a scripting language, i.e., for serious applications, you'd use it on top of a library written in C++. But, as a scripting language, it excels.
Check out Panda3D for an example of where you would use Python for a large and complex application.

Thanks for the help Core! I'll give all this a go and let you guys know how it's coming in a few weeks thumb.gif
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10/3/12 at 12:55pm
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Thanks for the help Core! I'll give all this a go and let you guys know how it's coming in a few weeks thumb.gif

No problem. Just a note though, I REALLY DON'T RECOMMEND that you start out by looking at Panda3D. Game development is incredibly difficult and you have to be at least an intermediate-level programmer to even begin to understand what's going on in the most simple of Panda3D examples.

Definitely check out some of the resources below, first (and by check out, I mean learn using them; because frankly, programming is hard and before you can dream of using Panda3D, you'll need to build a good foundation):
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-websites-learn-python-programming/
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
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10/4/12 at 1:30am
which language or programme helps to write my own diablo bot?

sorry ryanhirsch to bother your topic ^^
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10/4/12 at 1:39am
http://www.ajibanda.com/
http://www.codecademy.com

Liked the idea of codeacademy smile.gif
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post #20 of 22
10/4/12 at 1:47am
I personally don't really consider HTML a programming language. Just some tags you put around text to format it.

I suggest starting with Java or C. Java because it is not that hard to get into, a good tutorial about OOP should get you started pretty quickly. C is good because most of the other commonly used languages (C++, java, C#) are based on it. C is also easier then C++ afaik.
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