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Poll Results: best $100-150 cpu for unleashing gaming potential of gtx570?

 
  • 63% (48)
    Phenom x4 960T
  • 7% (6)
    Phenom x4 980BE
  • 5% (4)
    fx-4100
  • 23% (18)
    i3
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I feel that as people are buying more and more "multi core" cpus that developers are going to start coding for that. Look at SLI, it was big and then it went away, and now its coming back. Games in the last few years may have been very single threaded, but the times they are a changing, and so is the equipment that the devs do their stuff on. I strongly feel that multi gpu setups as well as quad to eight core setups will become the norm for pc gaming in the near future. Hell, just about everyone you know has a multi core cpu right? So don't you think the companies will start taking that into effect?
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If its purely gaming, I would vote for the i3 as well. Most games will only make use of two cores, so the faster Sandy or Ivy Bridge would do very well while consuming less power. Even though the OP already made his choice, the i3 platform is great for lower budget builds.

This is exactly why I said for purely gaming. i3 is just hard to beat, especially when you don't need to worry about a motherboard that can overclock, meaning you can easily get an Intel platform for $150~200, the same price of a lower-tiered AMD platform (which may not overclock well and needs to overclock to surpass the i3).

You guys are right about multi-tasking, but I'll be honest and say that most people I know do not mix gaming and CPU-intensive stuff together. For most people, it is usually a mix of gaming, browsing, music/media, voip programs and even a dual core Phenom II could handle that pretty well and this is coming from experience.
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I feel that as people are buying more and more "multi core" cpus that developers are going to start coding for that. Look at SLI, it was big and then it went away, and now its coming back. Games in the last few years may have been very single threaded, but the times they are a changing, and so is the equipment that the devs do their stuff on. I strongly feel that multi gpu setups as well as quad to eight core setups will become the norm for pc gaming in the near future. Hell, just about everyone you know has a multi core cpu right? So don't you think the companies will start taking that into effect?

Unfortunately, this is not true. The same things were being said 4 years ago and even though our hardware continues to improve, most applications/games have not utilized our systems. Only a handful of games actually make use of more than two cores and those games are normally GPU-limited.

As for dual-GPUs, there are sometimes delays in driver/game support for them, especially in newly-released games. You'll always see threads in OCN saying that X game has no CF or SLI support and that they experience negative scaling in some cases, which leaves them to run in single-GPU mode. I've experienced this on my 5870CF setup before and I'm really glad to be back to a single GPU.
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post #83 of 123
My 965 and 1090T handled gaming beautifully, I was maxxing out games with SLI 275s and 480s respectively. I was even comparing to my friends I7 and the difference was negligable, granted I had an extra GPU at the time, but that also factored into the cost of my build whereas noe the prices seem a little closer. I don't care for either intel or amd, I want the best my money can get for me. And it seems to me like games are being more and more gpu bound these days, with the occasional exception to the rule.
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Well, you're exaggerating a bit. A 960T could be paired with an M5A97 or other $80-100 overclocking-ready board with comparable features to the G41 Z77 and a decent CPU cooler is not a minimum of $50 - the Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 is $20 shipped right now and could offer a lot of headroom with the 960T operating as a 4-core setup. Even the stock cooler has headroom to be had.

But my point was to even come close to the i3's performance you're going to need max overclock. It doesn't matter if you could take it to 4GHz with a $20 cooler when it would still be 10-15% slower than the i3 in most games.
    
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But my point was to even come close to the i3's performance you're going to need max overclock. It doesn't matter if you could take it to 4GHz with a $20 cooler when it would still be 10-15% slower than the i3 in most games.

almost 13,000 posts. are you serious?
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post #86 of 123
just go for 965BE
it may be slower than i3, but it wont be by much
also, you get a quad core instead of dual
that's gotta count for something right??

its not like games would just refuse to go above 30fps with that processor, and, the games would not look any better at 25 fps with i3 than at 20 fps with 965
even if i3 manages to pull off above 30 in a game where 965 does not, it would be rare, turn some eye candy off and forget about it

buy an am3+ board, just to make sure that IF you go for bulldozer, you are loaded
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^ The above is not true if you're like most PC users and take advantage of the ability to multitask. Gamers may have a web browser or other background tasks such as music players. Those are minor, but occasionally they're going to be major: i.e. a video encode job or a virus scan or FRAPs creating a recording. The more true cores to be had with AMD's offerings at the same or less price provide for a much more consistent and balanced experience.

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960T. if you can find one.redface.gif
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OP here, so first of all I wanted to thank everyone that's replied, it's all been very helpful and informative.

Second, wanted to clear up some things about my specific case (maybe this will help someone else in the same situation reading this thread)
- I have (had) a $200 budget to spend on mobo, cpu and cooler (stock or not)
- I DO plan on overclocking, as far as a good mobo and air fan will take me at first, further later if necessary
- My number one priority was game fps, specifically (at the moment, this always changes) for games like Skyrim, LoL, Planetside 2, Civ 5.
- Number two priorities are equally upgradeability and overclockability

Yesterday I got very similar mobo-fan-cpu offers from Kill and Truckerguy, despite both having their pro's and cons, I went with with the am3+ mobo. But thanks to both of you.

Specifically I chose slightly cheaper am3+ mobo w/ aftermarket air cooler and 960T that won't unlock over more expensive am3 mobo w/ h2o cooling and 960T that would unlock. The fact that whenever I do want 6 cores, I'll probably want a new cpu and thus an am3+ board was the tipping point for my decision. And no, it didn't work out that I could by pieces and get the best of both worlds while still staying within budget.

So now I'm waiting for my 960T, any tips/advice/specific walkthrough's to read about overclocking it on an Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 board with a CoolMaster 212 would be greatly appreciated.
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