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Poll Results: best $100-150 cpu for unleashing gaming potential of gtx570?

 
  • 63% (48)
    Phenom x4 960T
  • 7% (6)
    Phenom x4 980BE
  • 5% (4)
    fx-4100
  • 23% (18)
    i3
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post #91 of 123
op, follow these threads . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1311290/amd-960t-1600t-first-overclocks

http://www.overclock.net/t/1189945/amd-zosma-960t-1600t-1605t-cpu-club

http://www.overclock.net/t/759011/hyper-212-how-to-apply-thermal-paste (for 212 + but shld be similar to the evo)

here is a guide to oc, though, not specific to your mobo.

http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/official-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys

i'll check your progress. meanwhile . . . let me have some beer.biggrin.gif
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^ The above is not true if you're like most PC users and take advantage of the ability to multitask. Gamers may have a web browser or other background tasks such as music players. Those are minor, but occasionally they're going to be major: i.e. a video encode job or a virus scan or FRAPs creating a recording. The more true cores to be had with AMD's offerings at the same or less price provide for a much more consistent and balanced experience.

that was the same thing i was saying
to go for dual core
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Have fun.
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This is exactly why I said for purely gaming. i3 is just hard to beat, especially when you don't need to worry about a motherboard that can overclock, meaning you can easily get an Intel platform for $150~200, the same price of a lower-tiered AMD platform (which may not overclock well and needs to overclock to surpass the i3).

I used to think the same thing until after I owned an i5-2400 and guess what? The budget model Intel cpus are not as strong as you seem to think. It can cause some stuttering in certain scenarios on some cpu bound games. That's an i5, can you imagine what would happen on an i3? The i3 is WORLDS apart from your 3570k. It seems to me that a lot of people recommending the i3 have no actual experience with it and have an overclocked 3570k, 2500k, or 2600k in their sig. They are not even close. After owning this i5-2400, I wouldn't touch an Intel cpu for gaming unless I intended to play at low settings or unless it was an unlocked model.
Edited by computerparts - 10/6/12 at 11:56am
post #95 of 123
I would say it's wrong to assume that most PC users are multitasking to the extent that they would mix gaming with another intensive task like encoding, though very few will use FRAPS to record or some other program to stream.

It's like saying most OCN members have custom watercooling. While many of us do watercool, the majority are using air coolers or AIO coolers. In this case, I would say most PC users are not doing CPU intensive stuff during gaming (or at all) since gaming would only slow down that CPU intensive program. Out of my friends who have quads and i7s (hyper-threading), only one actually streams his gaming sessions and the other 10~15 simply do gaming with minor multi-tasking.
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So now I'm waiting for my 960T, any tips/advice/specific walkthrough's to read about overclocking it on an Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 board with a CoolMaster 212 would be greatly appreciated.

Make sure your RAM is manually set to its rated speed/timings/voltage, many new overclockers face bluescreens/crashing due to incorrect RAM settings, but they sometimes think it is a lack of CPU voltage and will unnecessarily increase voltage.

Stick to raising your CPU and CPU-NB multipliers to overclock instead of increasing both the base clock (HT FSB) and the multipliers. Also find your stable or max CPU multiplier before you start working on the CPU-NB multiplier, this also applies to RAM overclocking (leave RAM as the last of the three).

The CoolerMaster 212 can get pretty loud at full speed, so if you care about noise, you can set your motherboard to automatically control the fan speed (found in the BIOS) or use a program to control it automatically/manually (Speedfan for example). If you ever get curious about adding a second fan in pull configuration (for push/pull), you may not see any temperature differences, but you can run both fans at a lower speed to achieve similar performance of a single fan for less sound.
    
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OP here, reporting in.

So the board came in (thank you Truckerguy), my old DDR2 memory was incompatible so I got a 4gb stick of PNY DDR3 1333 (PC3-10666). Everything went pretty smooth, until I got into windows. No BSOD, but programs started crashing left and right. Reading a bit (thank you Kokin), I get the impression that my problem is related to memory. So I go into BIOS, set Ai OC Tuner to "manual" and enter in 1333 for ram and 9-9-9-24 for timings. That's it. When I save and restart, I get a black screen. Doesn't even load BIOS. I have to manually restart 2-3 more times (can't remember) and then I get back into BIOS "American Megatrends" screen where it tells me "Overclocking failed!" and that I have to re-enter setup and try again. This happens when I try to disable a bunch of extraneous stuff too (note: though I can change "Ai OC Tuner" to manual, "CPU Level UP" is greyed out and set to auto, and I don't seem to be able to change it, don't know if it matters).

Currently loading and reloading trying to get ram settings to even save and load windows, which they haven't done so far. If I load with default values then I get ~900 for RAM and slightly overclocked CPU w/ the aforementioned errors.

TL;DR: got the board and brand new memory, can't load ram settings I want, think this is causing application crashes

update: same error when trying to set DRAM to 1067
Edited by undercl0cked - 10/19/12 at 12:07am
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If it's relevant, after I manually restart a couple times and it actually loads bios to tell me my overclocking failed, the CPU is at 3480 Mhz and DRAM is 928...
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Update: did a CLTRC, manually entered DRAM and disabled non-necessary stuff as before, same result: black screens till I restart 3 times then tells me "overclocking failed". Disconnected everything but keyboard and gfx card too.
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If it's relevant, after I manually restart a couple times and it actually loads bios to tell me my overclocking failed, the CPU is at 3480 Mhz and DRAM is 928...

in bios set your dram to 667 with the dram vcore at auto or whatever is the manufacturer's spec is (1.5v?).

fill out the rig builder here . . .

http://www.overclock.net/lists/component/manage/type/RIG
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in bios set your dram to 667 with the dram vcore at auto or whatever is the manufacturer's spec is (1.5v?).
fill out the rig builder here . . .
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Done and done. Lowest DRAM I could select was 800 so I had to bring down the CPU Bus to 167 to get ram to 668. Windows loaded up (now it's saying I have to re-register windows and I'm getting firewall errors and invalid certificates for normal websites) and Firefox has only crashed twice so far, probably would have been ten times by now. So that's improvement. But no my system is living up to my username... how can I fix this? Why is this only working with underclocked ram/cpu?

update: Windows seems to be seriously ****ed. After playing with DRAM and restarting so many times, now windows is saying that I have to register it, and the automatic registration doesn't work, nor do the numbers it gives me work over the phone registration... Programs are still crashing and not running right, I set my multiplier at 10 so core speed isn't jumping around anymore, but it's still underclocked and giving me problems.
Edited by undercl0cked - 10/19/12 at 10:44am
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