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if u r gonna do a reflow to remove the dvi in gtx 680 pls make a video or take somew photos while being done...i think lots of us would like to know how to do it....
^^ This ^^
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These new flow meters are a huge improvement over Aquacomputers previous effort and are tiny. To give you an idea of just how small they are I have attached some 1/2' compression fittings. They contain no moving parts and the flow is measured with electronics. This is great because they are true "high flow" meters.

What do you connect those up to to get the readings?
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if u r gonna do a reflow to remove the dvi in gtx 680 pls make a video or take somew photos while being done...i think lots of us would like to know how to do it....
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Originally Posted by TheHarvman313 View Post

^^ This ^^

I had a long conversation with the electrical engineer with the reflow station today. There isn't a great deal to take a picture or video of. He programs the station to heat the board evenly. Then using a computer it tells the arm above the reflow board to melt/suck the solder at set vectors on the board. Then after the board is cooled the port will be able to be pulled out.

There are a few problems he highlighted to me about my theory of removing one port.

Due to the way the twin dvi ports are set up there is no way to remove one without the other unless you are willing to cut through the mounting plate.

The mounting plate is a large plate that bridges both dvi ports together and is soldered directly to the board. This plate is used to stabilize the port otherwise it would just flop all over the place. It is also where the standoff's are screwed into when you screw in your dvi cable.

The plate can be seen in the following photos:




Here is a picture of the soldering welds for this plate:



He mentioned that there is less risk that the card won't work if the primary DVI port remains intact, but other than that he would not speculate further on other topics surrounding the BIOS of the card. So he has left me with a few options to think about as follows,

1) Cut the port out leaving the first port entirely attached. This includes cutting through the support plate. Not an easy cut even with tin snips, best bet would be laser cut.
2) Remove both ports, cut the support plate and reattach the first port.
3) Remove both ports and hope the bios of the board doesn't notice.
4) Remove both ports and use a donor single DVI port from a nvidia card (I have a 280gtx that would work for this). This will conserve the stock ports should they ever need to be put back for warranty purposes.

I'm still thinking about it and will make a decision soon. Either option 3 or 4 look the most promising but understandable that option 3 would not work for most.
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What do you connect those up to to get the readings?

You can connect it via USB directly to the motherboard, via aquabus to an aquero 5 front panel or just to a fan header on the motherboard.

If you go the usb route you can watch the flow rate in real time using their application, set up monitoring and so forth.

If you go the fan controller route once configured with usb you can set your motherboard to shutdown if the flow stops.

www.thekoolroom.com.au has some of these coming in (Sergui sent me an email late last week) if you're looking to buy them in AU.

Edit,

In other unrelated news, ordered a crimping tool from MDPC-X this morning which has shipped. Apparently the best crimping tool in the business.

In the meantime I'm currently using one of these
Edited by soth - 10/22/12 at 1:57am
post #114 of 782
cut the ports after taking them out or use a different dvi connector...i do believe all the 2 3*8 soldering points b/w the 2 soldering points u circled connect to the dvi..so u will hve to melt al those contacts if u have to remove the dvi plate...or simply take reciprocating saw and cut through...i believe last month's motm nominee project waffle has done so in his build...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1226380/scratch-build-restless-waffle

check it out...
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cut the ports after taking them out or use a different dvi connector...i do believe all the 2 3*8 soldering points b/w the 2 soldering points u circled connect to the dvi..so u will hve to melt al those contacts if u have to remove the dvi plate...or simply take reciprocating saw and cut through...i believe last month's motm nominee project waffle has done so in his build...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1226380/scratch-build-restless-waffle
check it out...

In the thread you linked, he used a PCI-e riser. It's not relative to any activity in this work log at all.

Also, your lack of sentence/paragraph structure annoys me -.-
Edited by XAnarchy - 10/22/12 at 8:16am
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Can you explain the problem with the xspc reservoir?

I had issues with one not fitting once and it turned out to be the little black bits in the side that the screws go into were sticking out from the acrylic so to fix I simple needed to pull them out and cut down the black rubber a bit and fit them back so they were flush with the acrylic

Or is it that the actual front acrylic too big to fit?

Nice job so far anyway keep it up!
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Subscribed, already an epic build so far. Can't wait to see more.
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Yeah 3 and 4 sound like the best options.
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dude why would you even buy a 40mm fan? ssd's dont produce heat that needs to be cooled down, so i think you'll be fine w/o any fans. unless some chip on the PCB of the bay thing gets too hot.
 
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Originally Posted by prathik7 View Post

cut the ports after taking them out or use a different dvi connector...i do believe all the 2 3*8 soldering points b/w the 2 soldering points u circled connect to the dvi..so u will hve to melt al those contacts if u have to remove the dvi plate...or simply take reciprocating saw and cut through...i believe last month's motm nominee project waffle has done so in his build...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1226380/scratch-build-restless-waffle
check it out...

I understand all contacts have to be melted to remove the plate entirely, but the solder welds I marked are directly responsible for securing the plate to the board and were shown to help the explanation. As XAnarchy mentioned in the thread you linked a pci-ex express riser was used. This is a great solution and should be part of everyone's consideration process when working with quad twin slot cards ,but is not really what I am looking to do here.
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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post

Can you explain the problem with the xspc reservoir?
I had issues with one not fitting once and it turned out to be the little black bits in the side that the screws go into were sticking out from the acrylic so to fix I simple needed to pull them out and cut down the black rubber a bit and fit them back so they were flush with the acrylic
Or is it that the actual front acrylic too big to fit?
Nice job so far anyway keep it up!

It's the acrylic itself that is overlapping the bay below by about 2mm, After work I'll take a picture for you to show it. It only seems to be a problem when I have all the bay's full. The same was true when I occupied the 2 bays directly below the reservoir in a haf x case. If you didn't need all the bays to be occupied I think it would work fine.
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Subscribed, already an epic build so far. Can't wait to see more.

Thanks for the sub! smile.gif
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dude why would you even buy a 40mm fan? ssd's dont produce heat that needs to be cooled down, so i think you'll be fine w/o any fans. unless some chip on the PCB of the bay thing gets too hot.

SSD's generate heat, especially in an enclosed space. Think of the ram memory in your computer and the chip that controls it. While not the same type of memory chip, the SSD chips and the controller on the SSD circuit board generate heat. Usually this is absorbed by the ssd casing (which is why they are a metal substance) and distributed evenly so when you touch a SSD it doesn't feel very hot. However put 4 on top of each other in an enclosed space and they will get quite hot after a while. That being said you still might not need the fan, but given my investment in 8 x SSD's I think I'd rather not put this to the test smile.gif

Edit, Bitspower order shipped from performance pc's and will arrive Thursday or Friday, This order included the pump tops, new res, pump dress up kits and some other miscellaneous items.

Edit 2, 40cm fans arrived.


Edited by soth - 10/22/12 at 8:35pm
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