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i'm confused. if they dont want people to overvolt, then why did they let fermi be able to be overvolted out of the box?
 
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Time to go back to pencil modding!
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Originally Posted by Michalius View Post

Anyone read the article?
They're not preventing MSI and EVGA from having voltage control. They're saying if they want to allow their cards to supply more voltage than what the card is spec'd for, then they don't get warranty support through NVIDIA.
That seems like a completely reasonable business stance. Why would you expect NVIDIA to honor warranties on cards that are getting volts they never intended to have?

It makes sense when you put it that way but look at it like this. Ford doesnt ship a car from the factory that can only 55 mph, no more, no less. They send out a car that you can change speed. Nvidia shipped kepler with no adjustment at all. Ship the card with a defualt voltage lower than the max and allow adjustment to the max.
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680 lightning 1.37v 24/7
up yours Nvidia wink.gif


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It makes sense when you put it that way but look at it like this. Ford doesnt ship a car from the factory that can only 55 mph, no more, no less.

Many cars are actually governed so they won't go above the maximum speed it's safe to drive them at.... that's essentially what nVidia is doing here.

Also nVidia is basically saying the "car dealership" can remove the governor, but they won't honor the warranty if they do.
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Anyone read the article?
They're not preventing MSI and EVGA from having voltage control. They're saying if they want to allow their cards to supply more voltage than what the card is spec'd for, then they don't get warranty support through NVIDIA.
That seems like a completely reasonable business stance. Why would you expect NVIDIA to honor warranties on cards that are getting volts they never intended to have?

This.

I mean it would be very stupid for nvidia to allow cards to go way out of spec when the chances of the card dying are going to be much much higher and still offering a warranty on the card.

It isn't like nvidia is going to stop providing cards to companies that dont want to follow spec. They just won't replace a card because someone thought it was a good idea to put 2v through a chip on air cooling.

On a side note, doesn't the 7900 series top out at 1.3v anyways? So its not like you have unlimited voltage control with those cards either.
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All that said - I do feel there is a culture that people expect to be able to push hardware to breaking point, then to return it when its all gone wrong.

This is def true, countless times friends and myself included have pushed hardware -possibly voiding spec/warranty and still expecting full RMA support. There honestly needs to be a better way of monitoring actual causes rather than relying on macro-inspection of GPUs(blown caps/VR/solder).

Perhaps if there was a binary chip activated once over volts were applied(providing a EULA, etc)?
 
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Many cars are actually governed so they won't go above the maximum speed it's safe to drive them at.... that's essentially what nVidia is doing here.
Also nVidia is basically saying the "car dealership" can remove the governor, but they won't honor the warranty if they do.

Yeah . I mean its no different than all other cards. Fermi had a max software voltage and so do AMD cards. Nvidia is shipping the card at the max and not allowing it to chagne. Trying to put my thoughts into words ha. Its like CPU's. They all have a max voltage but they dont run at that voltage from the factory. You can bump it up to that voltage.
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Yeah. This thread is going to go downhill quickly. After the angry people realize they don't have a leg to stand on, it will devolve into semantics over analogies.

If you put out a product and designed it to work in such a way, would you offer a warranty if someone took your product and harmed it by using it in a fashion that it wasn't designed for? No, you wouldn't. Neither will NVIDIA. If there is anyone who should be taking the ire here, it's EVGA and MSI for not standing behind their own products.
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