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what memory? if you let me know i can help you;.
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right now i have platinum 1866. i was looking into upgrading to either of these 2 kits being C10 2666 cant be found anywhere. i really wanted 16gb but im going to use these kits for benchmarking, and keep my platinums for daily use.

AVEXIR Core Series

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST09D6460


Team Group 2666

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313322
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Thanks, I will stick with the F5 for now then.
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right now i have platinum 1866. i was looking into upgrading to either of these 2 kits being C10 2666 cant be found anywhere. i really wanted 16gb but im going to use these kits for benchmarking, and keep my platinums for daily use.

AVEXIR Core Series

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST09D6460


Team Group 2666

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313322
Those could either by hynix or samsung, i am not sure. Samsung would be best with a BIOS with slews, i think F5F and beyond maybe F5G have slews. For hynix though, they will like slews on auto(or 1) samsung will like 2+.

Yea I don't see many 2666C10.

I have 3x 2666 kits, 1x G.Skill 16GB 2666C11, 1x corsair 16GB 2666C10, and 1x kingston 2666C11 8GB

Both the kingston and the corsair are samsung, and hynix is the g.skill. Try to get samsung, as samsung can do better timings than hynix, of course hynix will give you more speed.
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i ordered this kit and im going to see what they can do. ive read good things about the company and figured why not. they might be hynix from what i read though. if these work im going to try 2800mhz on them and pray my imc will run them.

any tips on the timings? i still dont understand them fully. and thanx for the help. i read your review and took a few setting in my bios and it made mine stable at 4.8ghz daily again. thumb.gif
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im gonna check it out and see what i come up with. thanx again for the help man. i still dont understand the timings yet but im gonna give it my best. thumb.gif
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i have a table there with timings for 3 types of memory in different configurations. Timings aren't easy to understand, id say like 99% of benchers don't really understand them either past the first 5 or 6. They just change 1 at a time to figure out what works, its a painful experience. Unless you have taken a course in memory substructure, understanding how rows and columns are addressed and how the systems works is not very simple.

However most sites that explain timings, just re-write what is in the JDEC specifications which you can download online for free for DDR3. Also each platform, X79, Z77, X58 all vary in terms of what timings are available for change, some platforms will not have a few timings that are available on others. But I posted some timings that work, they aren't that tight. but those combos work well for high speed, sometimes you will see someone post timings fully, XMP is also a decent starting point, but they usually are on the loose side as well.

I also have BIOS profiles you can download and load onto your UP7 with the same BIOS as I used and then you can go from there.

Here is some on the timings:
tWRT should be equal to tRPT which should be greater than or equal too tRRD
tFAW should be at least 4 X tRRD, but can be higher for more stability
tRC should be equal to tRAS + tRP however don’t touch this, just leave it on auto as you really can't change it.
tRAS some say is CL + tRCD + tRP however you can also use tRCD + (2 X CL), setting this higher is better for stability, 4DIMM should be a bit higher than 2DIMM setting on this.
tWR try to set this in ratio with tRRD, so if you do tRRD of 6 or 7 then try 16 for tWR, but you can also do 10 for tRRD and 20 for tWR. Usually this is tRAS – tRCD, however most of the time it is set lower than that.
tWTP =tWR + tWL + 4 however, I just leave it on auto just like tRC.
Read/Write Data Slew rate: 1 is default for all GIGABYTE boards, however 2+ can be very useful for PCS and Samsung, however from what I have found different kits like different amounts. This setting can affect the performance and stability.
tWR/tRW Stability Level: default is 3, however setting 4-5 at 2800+ can provide better results, however this setting can also be tricky, it can cause problems with stability. It ranges from 1-32, so you can try 32 different times. lol
tREFI is the refresh interval, this refreshes the memory, it goes in relation with temperature of the memory itself, so if you are having bad luck with it, then try and set it lower or higher(like from 7K to 10K).

memory timings are one of the last fronts where benchers have some sort of edge, and thus most of the time users don't give out all the timings they use, they keep it a secret.
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yea which i found on this board i beleive my memory holds me back. i can get up to 5.55ghz with the cpu multi, but if i attempt a lower multi with more bclk it will not do it. i havent been able to go over 103bclk on this board. why, its beyond me. im still a beginer. but i believe its the memory end of things holding me back. but i could be wrong.

the board is solid. my gpu's clock like a dream. but when i actually got my memory to clock up to 2133 w timings 10-11-10-30 it made a pretty good jump in my mark11 score. so im going to try faster ram and see what happens. but im wondering if my chips imc will actually do it.

idk im gonna give it a shot and see what happens. going to try and read this stuff again as half of that was chinese to me. so i got some study to do. thumb.gif
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CPUz-OC 1.62.2

http://www.cpuid.com/medias/files/softwares/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.62.2-oc-setup-en.exe
http://www.mediafire.com/?6ehf2akmyo51gwy


Edited by stasio - 2/5/13 at 3:04am
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