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You do realize they can use colors to help cheat?

You do realize the blue-gray filter was added after beta and they could easily just add an option to disable it, ending this whole stupid argument, right? The argument that it could be used to cheat is just an excuse to cover their asses when they cry over a little criticism.
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Originally Posted by DOOOLY View Post

Good....... battlefield 3 was made away dice wanted if you don't like it don't play it .

mod community is what makes the games life span longer
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I...
I mean I understand it from the perspective of "if we allow this kind of mod, where's the line where we don't allow it?" I mean, if a color change mod is allowed, who's to say you can't use a color change mod that picks out the specific colors of all the player models and throws a bright yellow shader over them?
A stretch, I know, but you'd be surprised how little of a difference it is coding-wise.

This , By the way thing like this happened in WoW . People were applying a skin to the Flag in Battlegrounds , Using a HUGE Boss Skin over the flag that way anytime someone had the flag you could see no matter what. The concept isnt the color change is really cheating , its the fact that you could take a Specific color and coat the players in it.

Honestly I don't believe that is a good comparison. No one is editing models to get a situational advantage such in that world of warcraft case. I remember that specifically since I saw my friend with the model edit and the flag carrier was always visible as he was a giant lava monster. No one is altering the models of the charecters in battlefield matches to give away positions. The avantage potentials are vastly different.
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You can change more than just the color gradient with this mod if you know what you're doing, e.g. weapon spread, recoil, damage, reload time, etc. It's the reason they're banning for it, not because it alters their, "art direction".

Yet another example of addressing the symptom rather than the disease. Remove the 1980s client-side networking and suddenly that becomes irrelevant.
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mod community is what makes the games life span longer
I didn't play BF2 very much, but as far as I know, there were a lot of mods available for that game. Saying that you should play the game how DICE designed it doesn't really make much sense.
Edited by AbdullahG - 10/3/12 at 7:21pm
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Yet another example of addressing the symptom rather than the disease. Remove the 1980s client-side networking and suddenly that becomes irrelevant.

Agree.
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Honestly I don't believe that is a good comparison. No one is editing models to get a situational advantage such in that world of warcraft case. I remember that specifically since I saw my friend with the model edit and the flag carrier was always visible as he was a giant lava monster. No one is altering the models of the charecters in battlefield matches to give away positions. The avantage potentials are vastly different.

Its the Idea of the ability to go above and beyond most users wont stop at the Blue Gray Filter , they will eventually look into what exactly they can use the tools for like another poster said , Bullet Spread etc.
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I'm not a fan of EA by any means, but I agree with them on this. As some people have already stated being able to tweak colors can easily be exploited for cheating. It's one of the more subtle ways, without using aimbots or scripts.
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Honestly I don't believe that is a good comparison. No one is editing models to get a situational advantage such in that world of warcraft case. I remember that specifically since I saw my friend with the model edit and the flag carrier was always visible as he was a giant lava monster. No one is altering the models of the charecters in battlefield matches to give away positions. The avantage potentials are vastly different.

Its the Idea of the ability to go above and beyond most users wont stop at the Blue Gray Filter , they will eventually look into what exactly they can use the tools for like another poster said , Bullet Spread etc.

I do agree to that, anything beyond the color filters and simple saturation is a no no and should be. Altering the game specs, such as the bullet spread, would be a good comparison to that.

Taking from other games, you would think they would have not made those variables client side. As with other games that have done this, those variables will inevitably be fudged with.
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Their artists must be very sensitive to criticisms

Wat? If you weren't aware, the color-editing tools let you also modify weapon damage, recoil, firing speed, ammo capacity, among other things that would destroy BF3's multiplayer.
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