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Thanks for all the feedback. I revised my build to use a 600W OCZ Power Supply that was recommended by a few friends since they use it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjI0

 

I'm not going to try and beat this PSU for that price.  Although, it is not a PSU that I would ever recommend since there are other PSUs that are much better at prices that are not that much higher (but I won't go through that again).

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Thanks for all the feedback. I revised my build to use a 600W OCZ Power Supply that was recommended by a few friends since they use it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jjI0

Get a better PSU like stated in the second post I believe, mobo and get the Samsung Wonder RAM. Get a SSD too. Samsung 830 is my favorite.

You have a $1k budget. Don't waste it on crap parts.

The PSU is a good price, but I am pretty sure (not certain) it is not a good quality PSU.


As for everyone commenting about Hyper threading..... I believe the main reason for the i7 was rendering. BF3 uses a significant amount of threads but NOTHING "utilizes hyperthreading" But, BF3 Multiplayer does utilize more than 8 threads. An i7 has a slight benefit over an i5 in that situation, but It is doubtful anyone has the graphical performance to notice the difference.
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As I dont have GW2 I asked someone else that has the game and a I7 2600k. He states there is ZERO benefit with having HT enabled with GW2.
trcvrs if your not sure about something please do not comment on it and spread false information. You can lead someone to buying a component that is not needed.


I wasn't sure about BF3 (hence why I stated "I think..." but GW2 definitely does benefit. Sorry, but your friend is WRONG. Don't accuse others if you're not even sure that YOU aren't spreading misinformation. There was a poster in gw2guru forums that did some benchmarks in wvw sieges and heavy DEs. You'll get a ~15% better performance in CPU heavy situations. When there is +100-200 people spamming mass AoEs and there are thousands of numbers flying around, you'll see an improvement. And when you're sub 20 FPS in huge events, you'll appreciate every frame. Of course you won't see as much improvement when you are just runnign around in explorer area though, especially if you're running at 1440p/supersampling and maxing out your GPU that way.
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In light of Swolern's post above, can you provide some proof that GW2 benefits from it?
Not sure how you want me to prove it, but do a search on gw2guru from people who did extensive WVW testing with hyperthreading.
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I want the hyperthreading because I imagine that more games will be made to use it
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post #35 of 54
At this point in time right now, don't worry about HT unless you need it for encoding, folding, compiling, etc things that aren't debated over whether or not it helps.
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Hyperthreading has been out since Pentium 4 days. I don't think games will suddenly be better with it. IT is useful for video editing like sony vegas or after effects/photoshop etc. Don't get excited with it over games.
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Well, now that you mention it, I will be using Sony Vegas since I enjoy film making. I would like to render 1080p video faster.
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OP you are trying to fit a 3770k in a 700 dollar build and compromising a lot on the rest of the PC.

1. the PSU is very important. A high quality seasonic modular psu like the M12II 520 is what I would suggest for a single HD 7970. cost 70 bucks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093

2. A 500 GB HDD HDD with 16 MB cache is just not a good choice. here is the Seagate 1TB with 64 MB cache

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others&promoid=1061

3. Samsung 830 is the best SSD . the 128 GB model is 90 bucks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163

4. Get the Asrock z77 extreme 3 motherboard . costs 102 bucks after applying promo code (15% off with promo code MB106, ends 10/6 )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157330

5. ANTEC 302 is a more spacious case. supports graphics cards upto 12.5 inches in length . tool-less 5.25 inch bays.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129180
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5462/antec-three-hundred-two-stay-cool-budget-enthusiasts

6. With the stock CPU cooler you cannot do any serious overclocking. get a coolermaster hyper 212 plus for 20 bucks after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

if you don't want to overclock get the non k version for 25 bucks less.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70539&vpn=BX80637I73770&manufacture=Others&promoid=1381

frankly you need to definitely spend a bit more. do not compromise. you will be happy you spent the extra money . thumb.gif
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Hi WolfGeneral,

Currently, the drive of choice that has high platter density, good initial reliability trending, a fair price, and solid warrenty, is the Western Digitial Blue WD10EZEX. About $87 on newegg right now. For video work, drive performance is important, and a single platter 1TB drive will have peak throughput in the 200MB/sec territory on the outer edges. Not a bad place to be for dealing with lots of media content.

I'll be another vote against the OCZ power supply.

A sort of "rule of thumb" with power supplies these days is as follows: "You are going to pay for the better power supply, whether you buy it or not."

The difference in efficiency between the "typical" 80+ cert units, and the 80+ gold/platinum is about 10%. Most people will hold on to a computer for 3-5 years these days. Over those years, the difference in electrical costs will typically cover the additional cost of the higher end PSU. So, you are left with a choice to spend the difference now or over time. The benifit of paying over time, is more liquidity in your funds today, the benefit of paying up front, is a cooler running, quieter and more reliable PSU for the years to come. The choice is yours to make. I am in favor of the up front approach.
     
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Here is my revised build again.

I have dropped my processor to a 3770. I really don't think I will be overclocking now. It doesnt really matter though

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jp24
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